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You have zero say in what goes on at +</I>>>><i> gnome.org, nor about me. If you start by telling me what I must and +</I>>>><i> must not do, it is better to not respond. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Neither can gnome.org dictate what distros do, only suggest. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm very well aware, which is why I don't use must. It is a very long +</I>><i> process, not going to change any time soon. Again, this started out with +</I> +Yep, but if we dont start the process, nothing happends either :) + +><i> me saying "I prefer"... a minor note about my thoughts. Don't think that +</I>><i> any of my messages as something I don't intend e.g. as if they are +</I>><i> instructions on what Mageia should so. +</I>><i> +</I> +Nope, I didn't take it that way... + +I just pointed out that the distro <-> DE symbiosis need to be +considered from both POV. + + +>>><i> - I clearly stated freedesktop.org standards +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Yes, standards is good as long as they actully are followed, +</I>>><i> wich is not always the case, but this is getting better... +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> - Maybe to clarify my point: When using GNOME, there should not be any +</I>>>><i> need to resort to a distro specific configuration tool. E.g. xorg +</I>>>><i> should be setup automatically, not require any distro assistance. It +</I>>>><i> is long term and difficult. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Well, the power and usability of DE agnostic control center is _way_ +</I>>><i> better than what the DE integrated ones can offer for systemwide settings. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Power I fully agree with. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Think of giving support: Instead of having first having to ask for what +</I>>><i> DE, and then have to to tell the user the DE-specific way of changing +</I>>><i> it, support can simply say open mcc, do this, then that, then... +</I>>><i> and you are done. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Depends on who is giving the support. +</I>><i> +</I> +So true. + +>><i> But yes, integration between tools, and getting more stuff to +</I>>><i> work automatically is WIP, not something that changes over night. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Indeed. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Not to mention pretty much every review out there lists mcc as one +</I>>><i> of the strong points, so it's also clear that endusers want it... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To be clear: I think MCC is great. But I also use Fedora sometimes. And +</I>><i> sometimes Ubuntu. I highly prefer Mageia. I find it sad that something +</I>><i> like MCC is distro specific. Other distributions have tools with their +</I>><i> own advantages. I prefer if such tools are shared across distributions, +</I>><i> just like most software is available between distributions. Possibly +</I>><i> with some slight patches (like a lot of software), but that's it. +</I>><i> +</I> +Yep, wich is why stuff like packagekit is in the works, slowly +progressing... + +><i> Practically, probably not going to change any time soon, but I hope it +</I>><i> does.. nothing more. +</I>><i> +</I> +Same here, + +-- + +Thomas +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="016167.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME plans +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="016185.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME plans +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#16168">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#16168">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#16168">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#16168">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |