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In MCC, we can set up the input method in localedrake, and this +</I>><i> >> setting would be system-wide except GNOME about 3.6+. This should be +</I>><i> >> mentioned, because it would destroy the unified user experience. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > As said, I don't code. And unified experience I care for GNOME, that it +</I>><i> > works consistently. I care about freedesktop.org standards. I don't care +</I>><i> > for differences between distributions. E.g. MCC is great, but I prefer +</I>><i> > if it didn't exist. MCC is only Mageia/Mandriva, another distro has +</I>><i> > other things, etc. +</I>><i> > I prefer something in gnome-control-center. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And here we have the main point, the difference between Gnome and +</I>><i> everybody else. +</I> +I'm not interested into turning this into an us vs them thread. + +><i> Gnome is a mere desktop environment, nothing more and nothing less. Period. +</I>><i> And it is not the only desktop environment nor the only way a user can +</I>><i> use the desktop. So the gnome-control-center must restrict itself to +</I>><i> settings which concern Gnome, nothing else. Same as the KDE +</I>><i> control-center should do. +</I> +- Please change your wording. You have zero say in what goes on at + gnome.org, nor about me. If you start by telling me what I must and + must not do, it is better to not respond. +- I clearly stated freedesktop.org standards +- Maybe to clarify my point: When using GNOME, there should not be any + need to resort to a distro specific configuration tool. E.g. xorg + should be setup automatically, not require any distro assistance. It + is long term and difficult. + +><i> Very simple and easy to understand reason: Not everbody uses Gnome or +</I>><i> KDE. If system settings will be done by Gnome and KDE control-centers, +</I>><i> we'd still need yet another "setting-center" for people who do not +</I>><i> use Gnome nor KDE. Simple logic that such a diversity makes no sense +</I>><i> at all. +</I> +You clearly care about MCC, cool. But respect other people's opinion. +I'd like to clarify more, but IMO, the mention freedesktop.org standard +should be clear enough. + +><i> It would only make sense if Gnome was a Linux system of its own. Which +</I>><i> it is clearly not. +</I> +You're assuming things I did not state. Such as that there is nothing +outside of GNOME, etc. + +To make clear: I think it is stupid that various distributions have +their own specific configuration tools. That should be shared across +distributions. +Secondly, I think you should be able to do everything from within System +Settings. + +Two different points, not one. + +-- +Regards, +Olav +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="016154.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME plans +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="016162.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME plans +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#16158">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#16158">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#16158">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#16158">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |