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<H1>[Mageia-dev] GNOME plans</H1>
<B>Olav Vitters</B>
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<I>Mon Jun 4 19:32:47 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
><i> 2012/6/4 Olav Vitters <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>>:
</I>><i> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:13:53PM +0800, Kira wrote:
</I>><i> >> Well, I think the main point of arguing about this issue is that most
</I>><i> >> people is mostly used to other input method and they don't care about
</I>><i> >> iBus...
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Still 2 points to be answered especially for Mageia here:
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> 1. In MCC, we can set up the input method in localedrake, and this
</I>><i> >> setting would be system-wide except GNOME about 3.6+. This should be
</I>><i> >> mentioned, because it would destroy the unified user experience.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > As said, I don't code. And unified experience I care for GNOME, that it
</I>><i> > works consistently. I care about freedesktop.org standards. I don't care
</I>><i> > for differences between distributions. E.g. MCC is great, but I prefer
</I>><i> > if it didn't exist. MCC is only Mageia/Mandriva, another distro has
</I>><i> > other things, etc.
</I>><i> > I prefer something in gnome-control-center.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> And here we have the main point, the difference between Gnome and
</I>><i> everybody else.
</I>
I'm not interested into turning this into an us vs them thread.
><i> Gnome is a mere desktop environment, nothing more and nothing less. Period.
</I>><i> And it is not the only desktop environment nor the only way a user can
</I>><i> use the desktop. So the gnome-control-center must restrict itself to
</I>><i> settings which concern Gnome, nothing else. Same as the KDE
</I>><i> control-center should do.
</I>
- Please change your wording. You have zero say in what goes on at
gnome.org, nor about me. If you start by telling me what I must and
must not do, it is better to not respond.
- I clearly stated freedesktop.org standards
- Maybe to clarify my point: When using GNOME, there should not be any
need to resort to a distro specific configuration tool. E.g. xorg
should be setup automatically, not require any distro assistance. It
is long term and difficult.
><i> Very simple and easy to understand reason: Not everbody uses Gnome or
</I>><i> KDE. If system settings will be done by Gnome and KDE control-centers,
</I>><i> we'd still need yet another "setting-center" for people who do not
</I>><i> use Gnome nor KDE. Simple logic that such a diversity makes no sense
</I>><i> at all.
</I>
You clearly care about MCC, cool. But respect other people's opinion.
I'd like to clarify more, but IMO, the mention freedesktop.org standard
should be clear enough.
><i> It would only make sense if Gnome was a Linux system of its own. Which
</I>><i> it is clearly not.
</I>
You're assuming things I did not state. Such as that there is nothing
outside of GNOME, etc.
To make clear: I think it is stupid that various distributions have
their own specific configuration tools. That should be shared across
distributions.
Secondly, I think you should be able to do everything from within System
Settings.
Two different points, not one.
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Regards,
Olav
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