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We had the case in PLF. + +><i> The issue with 'non-free' is generally one of limitations on the use of the +</I>><i> software and/or source code not normally of distribution, in Mandriva the +</I>><i> software with distribution restrictions normally ends up in 'restricted' +</I>><i> not in 'non-free'. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On the other hand a 'tainted+non-free' package has the bigger issue of +</I>><i> containing patent issues (at least for some countries) so I would assume +</I>><i> that it's a lot more important to keep 'tainted' packages clearly separate +</I>><i> for people or mirrors that don't want to risk breaking patent laws in the +</I>><i> affected countries. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we put 'tainted+non-free' software in 'non-free' then it will be very +</I>><i> hard for a normal user or mirror admin to recognize it as being a +</I>><i> potential patent liability. +</I> +Usually, people who do write non-free softwares on Linux ( like Adobe +for flashplayer, Oracle for Java, etc ) are also those that do +commercial business around it, and also pay the patent holder for usage, +as seen when accepting the license on installation. + + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003301.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3299">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3299">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3299">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3299">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003300.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003300.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fe8d731ef --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003300.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Alpha-1%20Comments&In-Reply-To=%3C20110315004623.7b5c1af5%40werewolf.home%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003348.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003302.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments</H1> + <B>JA Magallón</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Alpha-1%20Comments&In-Reply-To=%3C20110315004623.7b5c1af5%40werewolf.home%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments">jamagallon at ono.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 00:46:23 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003348.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003302.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3300">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3300">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3300">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3300">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi all... + +First of all, nice work, people !! Hope all version 0 alphas were like +this... + +I know I'm late for Alpha-2, but here are some comments about the install +of alpha-1, hope they are useful for beta-1 if they are not already fixed. +For the missing packages, probably they are things accessible through +repos once installed, but some I think they should be in the ISOs... + +Here we go: + +- lsb-release, it looks like the standard way of versioning... +- Is the format of /etc/release stable yet or will it change ? If it is not, + you could add 'zeroes' where they should go. IE, if you ever plan to do + a Mageia 1.1 relase, please call this 1.0 instead of '1'. +- could dmidecode be in the iso ? +- same for gpm, could it be installed and enabled by default on the final + installed system ? +- missing gnome things, like gnome-themes or gnome-panel, but I suppose this + is already fixed (btw, I seem to remember that Anne sent a URL for the + Alpha2 package list, but I have not been able to recall it from my mailbox...) +- this is artwork matter, but, plzzz could you put the installer metal grid + background as GDM/KDM background also ? I liiiiike it ;) +- a question: will mageia use systemd by default or not ? + +TIA, and good Alpha 2 !! +I'm hitting reload in my browser to see the ISO appear ;). + +-- +J.A. 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Hope all version 0 alphas were like +</I>><i> this... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I know I'm late for Alpha-2, but here are some comments about the install +</I>><i> of alpha-1, hope they are useful for beta-1 if they are not already fixed. +</I>><i> For the missing packages, probably they are things accessible through +</I>><i> repos once installed, but some I think they should be in the ISOs... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here we go: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - lsb-release, it looks like the standard way of versioning... +</I>><i> - Is the format of /etc/release stable yet or will it change ? If it is not, +</I>><i> you could add 'zeroes' where they should go. IE, if you ever plan to do +</I>><i> a Mageia 1.1 relase, please call this 1.0 instead of '1'. +</I>><i> - could dmidecode be in the iso ? +</I>><i> - same for gpm, could it be installed and enabled by default on the final +</I>><i> installed system ? +</I>><i> - missing gnome things, like gnome-themes or gnome-panel, but I suppose this +</I>><i> is already fixed (btw, I seem to remember that Anne sent a URL for the +</I>><i> Alpha2 package list, but I have not been able to recall it from my mailbox...) +</I>><i> - this is artwork matter, but, plzzz could you put the installer metal grid +</I>><i> background as GDM/KDM background also ? I liiiiike it ;) +</I>><i> - a question: will mageia use systemd by default or not ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> TIA, and good Alpha 2 !! +</I>><i> I'm hitting reload in my browser to see the ISO appear ;). +</I>><i> +</I> +A couple ideas more... + +In metacity, enable the compositor by default, even if the user doesnt want +3D efeccts. No compiz, no CPU cycles lost, but a nice shadow around windows +ala MacOSX. + +And, now that you are building a new distro, perhaps the HOME layout could be changed. +Nowadays: + +Documents Templates Pictures Videos Music .... + +Perhaps: + +Documents Documents/Templates Media/Image Media/Video Media/Music + +so in your ~home you just see 'Documents' and 'Media'. Just XDG default settings. + +by + +-- +J.A. 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Those that +have sources are free software ( freecol for example ), but requires +something from non-free. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003301.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003304.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3303">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3303">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3303">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3303">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003304.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003304.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..47594e834 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003304.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? 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Hope all version 0 alphas were like +</I>><i> this... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I know I'm late for Alpha-2, but here are some comments about the install +</I>><i> of alpha-1, hope they are useful for beta-1 if they are not already fixed. +</I>><i> For the missing packages, probably they are things accessible through +</I>><i> repos once installed, but some I think they should be in the ISOs... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here we go: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - lsb-release, it looks like the standard way of versioning... +</I> +? + +><i> - Is the format of /etc/release stable yet or will it change ? If it is not, +</I>><i> you could add 'zeroes' where they should go. IE, if you ever plan to do +</I>><i> a Mageia 1.1 relase, please call this 1.0 instead of '1'. +</I> +Well, I think so far that Mageia 1, what would it change ? + +><i> - could dmidecode be in the iso ? +</I>-> bug report :) + +><i> - same for gpm, could it be installed and enabled by default on the final +</I>><i> installed system ? +</I>-> bug report too + +><i> - missing gnome things, like gnome-themes or gnome-panel, but I suppose this +</I>><i> is already fixed (btw, I seem to remember that Anne sent a URL for the +</I>><i> Alpha2 package list, but I have not been able to recall it from my mailbox...) +</I>><i> - this is artwork matter, but, plzzz could you put the installer metal grid +</I>><i> background as GDM/KDM background also ? I liiiiike it ;) +</I>><i> - a question: will mageia use systemd by default or not ? +</I> +Not for the first release. +But given the fact that Mandriva, Opensuse, Fedora are switching, and +since it bring some needed cleaning and improvement, I do think this +would be a good idea for mageia 2. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003337.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003306.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3305">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3305">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3305">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3305">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003306.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003306.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..80311b741 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003306.html @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Alpha-1%20Comments&In-Reply-To=%3C201103141806.01951.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003305.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003307.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments</H1> + <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Alpha-1%20Comments&In-Reply-To=%3C201103141806.01951.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments">thomas at btspuhler.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 02:06:01 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003305.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003307.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3306">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3306">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3306">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3306">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Monday, March 14, 2011 05:35:04 pm Michael Scherer wrote: +><i> Le mardi 15 mars 2011 à 00:46 +0100, JA Magallón a écrit : +</I>><i> > Hi all... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > First of all, nice work, people !! Hope all version 0 alphas were like +</I>><i> > this... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I know I'm late for Alpha-2, but here are some comments about the install +</I>><i> > of alpha-1, hope they are useful for beta-1 if they are not already +</I>><i> > fixed. For the missing packages, probably they are things accessible +</I>><i> > through repos once installed, but some I think they should be in the +</I>><i> > ISOs... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Here we go: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > - lsb-release, it looks like the standard way of versioning... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > - Is the format of /etc/release stable yet or will it change ? If it is +</I>><i> > not, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > you could add 'zeroes' where they should go. IE, if you ever plan to do +</I>><i> > a Mageia 1.1 relase, please call this 1.0 instead of '1'. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, I think so far that Mageia 1, what would it change ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > - could dmidecode be in the iso ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -> bug report :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > - same for gpm, could it be installed and enabled by default on the final +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > installed system ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -> bug report too +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > - missing gnome things, like gnome-themes or gnome-panel, but I suppose +</I>><i> > this +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > is already fixed (btw, I seem to remember that Anne sent a URL for the +</I>><i> > Alpha2 package list, but I have not been able to recall it from my +</I>><i> > mailbox...) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > - this is artwork matter, but, plzzz could you put the installer metal +</I>><i> > grid +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > background as GDM/KDM background also ? I liiiiike it ;) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > - a question: will mageia use systemd by default or not ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not for the first release. +</I>><i> But given the fact that Mandriva, Opensuse, Fedora are switching, and +</I>><i> since it bring some needed cleaning and improvement, I do think this +</I>><i> would be a good idea for mageia 2. +</I>Agree +-- +Thomas +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003305.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003307.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3306">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3306">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3306">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3306">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003307.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003307.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a81efcc7c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003307.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Alpha-1%20Comments&In-Reply-To=%3C201103150310.25159.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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No compiz, no CPU cycles lost, but a nice shadow around windows +</I>><i> ala MacOSX. +</I>i'm not sure compositor is going to work without 3d support. + +-- +Balcaen John +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003302.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003314.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3308">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3308">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3308">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3308">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003309.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003309.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ada0b3c9d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003309.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Repository%20question%3A%20where%20do%20we%20put%0A%09non-free%2Btainted%20RPMs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C2122.4d7ee5af%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003304.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003312.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Repository%20question%3A%20where%20do%20we%20put%0A%09non-free%2Btainted%20RPMs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C2122.4d7ee5af%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 05:06:09 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003304.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003312.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3309">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3309">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3309">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3309">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +To add some examples of 'tainted+non-free' packages (that also include +source code) I just came across in plf free (plf doesn't seem to be too +strict about their free/non-free subdivision): +amrnb-7.0.0.2-2plf2011.0.src.rpm +amrwb-7.0.0.3-2plf2011.0.src.rpm +faac-1.28-3plf2011.0.src.rpm + +Where will we put these in Mangeia? 'tainted' or 'non-free' or a new +'tainted+non-free' repo? + +Please bear in mind that faac and amrwb are build dependencies for the +plf/'tainted' version of gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad. + +-- +Mageia ML Forum Gateway: <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003304.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003312.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3309">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3309">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3309">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3309">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003310.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003310.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..350da46ce --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003310.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%0A%09core/release%09playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1&In-Reply-To=%3C4D7F14E0.2020000%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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So if you +provides examples, that's nice, but that's likely bugs. + +><i> amrnb-7.0.0.2-2plf2011.0.src.rpm +</I>><i> amrwb-7.0.0.3-2plf2011.0.src.rpm +</I> +This one is interesting, because the whole code is free in the tarball, +as this download the code from the internet at compile time. The +resulting code is IMHO non-free. I would suggest to drop it and to use +<A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/</A> , which is more cleanly +licensed ( Apache license ). That's how rpmfusion does. + +That's IMHO a bug that should be reported to PLF, unless Anssi +disagree :) + +><i> faac-1.28-3plf2011.0.src.rpm +</I> +The software license is LGPL 2 or later, according to Sophie +<A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/7f88a24475773b9426d03122bcaa521f">http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/7f88a24475773b9426d03122bcaa521f</A> + + +><i> Where will we put these in Mangeia? 'tainted' or 'non-free' or a new +</I>><i> 'tainted+non-free' repo? +</I> +amrnb -> dropped, replaced by opencore-amr +faac -> tainted + + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003309.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003315.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3312">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3312">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3312">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3312">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003313.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003313.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..97dbbbb6e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003313.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%20playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1&In-Reply-To=%3C1300185060.12645.13.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003311.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003316.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%20playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1&In-Reply-To=%3C1300185060.12645.13.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 11:31:00 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003311.html">[Mageia-dev] Welcome to Eclipse +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003316.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3313">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3313">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3313">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3313">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le samedi 12 mars 2011 à 11:35 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : +><i> Op zaterdag 12 maart 2011 09:27:54 schreef Thierry Vignaud: +</I>><i> > On 11 March 2011 12:19, Mageia Team <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > > stormi <stormi> 3.8.8-2.mga1: +</I>><i> > > + Revision: 68228 +</I>><i> > > - clean spec +</I>><i> > > - imported package playonlinux +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > This is bogus as in Mandriva. +</I>><i> > It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64 +</I>><i> > by removing wine64 in favor of wine. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> afaik, wine64 only supports executing 64bit windows executables. and is kind +</I>><i> of useless atm. +</I> + +I think there is specialized applications that would requires 64 bits. +For example, photoshop has a 64 bits version. Matlab may also have +( even if in this case, there is a linux version ). +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003311.html">[Mageia-dev] Welcome to Eclipse +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003316.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3313">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3313">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3313">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3313">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003314.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003314.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9a35de977 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003314.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Alpha-1%20Comments&In-Reply-To=%3C1300185215.12645.14.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003308.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003337.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Alpha-1%20Comments&In-Reply-To=%3C1300185215.12645.14.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 11:33:35 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003308.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003337.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3314">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3314">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3314">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3314">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 15 mars 2011 à 01:12 +0100, JA Magallón a écrit : + +><i> And, now that you are building a new distro, perhaps the HOME layout could be changed. +</I>><i> Nowadays: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Documents Templates Pictures Videos Music .... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Perhaps: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Documents Documents/Templates Media/Image Media/Video Media/Music +</I>><i> +</I>><i> so in your ~home you just see 'Documents' and 'Media'. Just XDG default settings. +</I> +We follow the xdg standard : +<A HREF="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs">http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs</A> + +So if you want change, you should push them there first. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003308.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003337.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3314">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3314">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3314">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3314">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003315.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003315.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5c5d1a73d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003315.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Repository%20question%3A%20where%20do%20we%20put%0A%20non-free%2Btainted%20RPMs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4D7F431A.4030006%40iki.fi%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003312.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003324.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?</H1> + <B>Anssi Hannula</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Repository%20question%3A%20where%20do%20we%20put%0A%20non-free%2Btainted%20RPMs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4D7F431A.4030006%40iki.fi%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?">anssi.hannula at iki.fi + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 11:44:42 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003312.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003324.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3315">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3315">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3315">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3315">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 15.03.2011 12:28, Michael Scherer wrote: +><i> Le mardi 15 mars 2011 à 05:06 +0100, Tux99 a écrit : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> To add some examples of 'tainted+non-free' packages (that also include +</I>>><i> source code) I just came across in plf free (plf doesn't seem to be too +</I>>><i> strict about their free/non-free subdivision): +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I was in Vienna in May 2004 when we first discussed the split with the 3 +</I>><i> others terrorists present ( but the change was effective 9 months +</I>><i> later : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mandrake.plf.general/993">http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mandrake.plf.general/993</A> ), so I +</I>><i> think I can call myself knowledgeable on the way things should be for +</I>><i> PLF, despites having leaved the project some time ago. So if you +</I>><i> provides examples, that's nice, but that's likely bugs. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> amrnb-7.0.0.2-2plf2011.0.src.rpm +</I>>><i> amrwb-7.0.0.3-2plf2011.0.src.rpm +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This one is interesting, because the whole code is free in the tarball, +</I>><i> as this download the code from the internet at compile time. The +</I>><i> resulting code is IMHO non-free. I would suggest to drop it and to use +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/</A> , which is more cleanly +</I>><i> licensed ( Apache license ). That's how rpmfusion does. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's IMHO a bug that should be reported to PLF, unless Anssi +</I>><i> disagree :) +</I> +What you say above is completely true. + +>><i> faac-1.28-3plf2011.0.src.rpm +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The software license is LGPL 2 or later, according to Sophie +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/7f88a24475773b9426d03122bcaa521f">http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/7f88a24475773b9426d03122bcaa521f</A> +</I> +It is tagged incorrectly. It contains ISO reference source code that +forbids use in products that do not claim conformance to MPEG-2 +NBC/MPEG-4 standards. + +Actually faac is what this thread is about. + +>><i> Where will we put these in Mangeia? 'tainted' or 'non-free' or a new +</I>>><i> 'tainted+non-free' repo? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> amrnb -> dropped, replaced by opencore-amr +</I>><i> faac -> tainted +</I> + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003312.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003324.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3315">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3315">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3315">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3315">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003316.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003316.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..081666e8e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003316.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%0A%09core/release%09playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1&In-Reply-To=%3C4D7F43EA.702%40iki.fi%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003313.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003318.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1</H1> + <B>Anssi Hannula</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%0A%09core/release%09playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1&In-Reply-To=%3C4D7F43EA.702%40iki.fi%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1">anssi.hannula at iki.fi + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 11:48:10 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003313.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003318.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 aka Primavera available +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3316">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3316">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3316">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3316">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 12.03.2011 12:12, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +><i> Le samedi 12 mars 2011 09:27:54, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : +</I>>><i> On 11 March 2011 12:19, Mageia Team <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>> wrote: +</I>>>><i> stormi <stormi> 3.8.8-2.mga1: +</I>>>><i> + Revision: 68228 +</I>>>><i> - clean spec +</I>>>><i> - imported package playonlinux +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This is bogus as in Mandriva. +</I>>><i> It enforces installing wine, thus loosing 64b support on x86_64 +</I>>><i> by removing wine64 in favor of wine. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What would be the solution ? I must admit I didn't know this problem in +</I>><i> Mandriva because I have only i586 systems. +</I> +If you want playonlinux to always depend on 32-bit wine, while allowing +64-bit installations to have both 32-bit and 64-bit wine, you can use +requires on "wine32". + +If, on the other hand, you want playonlinux to depend on any wine +regardless of bitness, you can use requires on "wine-bin" (note that +64-bit wine can't execute win32 applications without "wine32" package +aka 32-bit wine). + +Using simply requires on "wine" prevents installation of 64-bit wine +completely, so it is therefore wrong. + +><i> Playonlinux requires wine and wine-full (both provided by wine, and wine-full +</I>><i> being an explicit Requires you added some months ago, from the changelog). +</I>><i> Does wine64 provide those ? Is the requires on wine the problem ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Best regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003313.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003318.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 aka Primavera available +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3316">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3316">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3316">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3316">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003317.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003317.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2618abdbf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003317.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Alpha-1%20Comments&In-Reply-To=%3C4D7F4AF2.7020604%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Jeff sent me the html page, as his server is down at +the moment : + +<A HREF="http://www.zarb.org/~misc/tmp/stdio.html">http://www.zarb.org/~misc/tmp/stdio.html</A> + +As you can see, there is some errors detected by a fresh automated +reinstallation from scratch. I fixed part of them yesterday , those +related to touch and Requires(post) ( I think ). + +There is lots of others one to fix. + +First, the various /dev/null related problem. I am not sure if we should +assume that /dev/null exist and is working. If we do, maybe we could +make sure it is created, for example as part as filesystem %post ? + + +2nd, the various group based problem. I have seen them too on various +occasion, they may be related to nscd, but I am not sure. It would be +nice to check. + +3rd : dbus. There is a vicious loop between dbus and its own library, +and it seems it lack requires on chkconfig. This part maybe linked to +the 5th point. + +4rd texlive. Is this really need to show everything ( this seems to be a +%trigger ) ? + +5th : + +error: removing glibc-2.12.1-10.mga1.i586 +"Requires: /usr/share/locale/lt/LC_MESSAGES" from tsort relations. +It seems that /usr/share/locale/ is unowned. On fedora, it is part of +the basesystem. The question is to find the list of canonical locales. + +Solving this one would likely solve a huge part of the loop issue. + + +6th : /etc/shadow is unowned : +~ $ ssh sisay LC_ALL=C rpm -qf /etc/shadow +file /etc/shadow is not owned by any package +/etc/passwd is in setup. Maybe we should also do it. + +We could also clean pam as we do not have much to migrate, as we use tcb +since some years now. + +7th : there is lot of loops, some caused by unowned directories : + +error: removing perl-XML-SAX-0.960.0-1.mga1.noarch "Requires(auto): +perl(XML::NamespaceSupport) >= 0.30.0" from tsort relations. +error: removing perl-XML-NamespaceSupport-1.110.0-2.mga1.noarch "Requires: /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.2/XML" from tsort relations. + +Some that are real loop. ( polkit, etc ). +This should IMHO be fixed. + +8th : I do not know what is installed exactly, but I think we would all agree that +it look like "too much" + + +Any remark, anybody wanting to work on some part of the correction ? + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003340.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003321.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3320">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3320">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3320">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3320">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003321.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003321.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..63c3aacb4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003321.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimwUmWOx0Ct7tbRj9FEO8QuLMnck7tn5o0UmsLK%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003320.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003322.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix</H1> + <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimwUmWOx0Ct7tbRj9FEO8QuLMnck7tn5o0UmsLK%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 15:17:03 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003320.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003322.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3321">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3321">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3321">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3321">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 15 March 2011 14:38, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> First, the various /dev/null related problem. I am not sure if we should +</I>><i> assume that /dev/null exist and is working. If we do, maybe we could +</I>><i> make sure it is created, for example as part as filesystem %post ? +</I> +For this, I would say it's usual Jbj bullshit because it didn't try to +search prior art in mdv world: + +1) /dev/null is created by makedev which is required by basesystem-minimal. +2) anyway, urpmi creates /dev/null if it doesn't exists anyway. +3) urpmi is used by drakx-installer too. + +Every case should be thus covered. +However he did saw this error. +Since we haven't seen this error before, I would like to look how it +performed what he did. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003320.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003322.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3321">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3321">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3321">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3321">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003322.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003322.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b094189a6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003322.html @@ -0,0 +1,118 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3C1300200469.12645.74.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003321.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003323.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3C1300200469.12645.74.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 15:47:49 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003321.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003323.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3322">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3322">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3322">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3322">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 15 mars 2011 à 15:17 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : +><i> On 15 March 2011 14:38, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > First, the various /dev/null related problem. I am not sure if we should +</I>><i> > assume that /dev/null exist and is working. If we do, maybe we could +</I>><i> > make sure it is created, for example as part as filesystem %post ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For this, I would say it's usual Jbj bullshit because it didn't try to +</I>><i> search prior art in mdv world: +</I> +Well, he didn't say anything, I just looked at the log and tried to find +some tasks. So indeed, I didn't search prior art. + +><i> 1) /dev/null is created by makedev which is required by basesystem-minimal. +</I>><i> 2) anyway, urpmi creates /dev/null if it doesn't exists anyway. +</I>><i> 3) urpmi is used by drakx-installer too. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Every case should be thus covered. +</I>><i> However he did saw this error. +</I> +That's likely a ordering issue, related to the loops. + +makedev is installed in the end, after python. + +One package that requires /dev/null is perl-XML-SAX. + +$ urpmq -d perl-XML-SAX +bash +dash-static +glibc +lib64termcap2 +perl-XML-NamespaceSupport +perl-XML-SAX +perl-base + +No requires on makedev nor basesystem-minimal. +So now, what requires perl-XML-SAX before basesystem-minimal is to +discuss. + +Also, the usage of /dev/null in a %post is a ope question. Do we want to +hide some verbose stuff, or should error be show to user ? + +><i> Since we haven't seen this error before, I would like to look how it +</I>><i> performed what he did. +</I> +I assume that's a simple basesystem installation. How exactly, that's +indeed a good question. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003321.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003323.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3322">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3322">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3322">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3322">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003323.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003323.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0a3b80501 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003323.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikAJoZBgiTNH94%3D9_GbLYcUVi%3D3Q8Y-NYdmQMVg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003322.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003326.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix</H1> + <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikAJoZBgiTNH94%3D9_GbLYcUVi%3D3Q8Y-NYdmQMVg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 16:00:01 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003322.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003326.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3323">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3323">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3323">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3323">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 15 March 2011 15:47, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +>><i> 1) /dev/null is created by makedev which is required by basesystem-minimal. +</I>>><i> 2) anyway, urpmi creates /dev/null if it doesn't exists anyway. +</I>>><i> 3) urpmi is used by drakx-installer too. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Every case should be thus covered. +</I>>><i> However he did saw this error. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's likely a ordering issue, related to the loops. +</I>><i> makedev is installed in the end, after python. +</I> +that shouldn't matter: + +urpmi::media::configure() (which is called by both urpmi & installer) does: + + if ($urpm->{root} && ! -c "$urpm->{root}/dev/null") { + mkdir "$urpm->{root}/dev"; + system("/bin/cp", "-a", '/dev/null', "$urpm->{root}/dev"); + } + +><i> So now, what requires perl-XML-SAX before basesystem-minimal is to +</I>><i> discuss. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Also, the usage of /dev/null in a %post is a ope question. 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The +</I>><i> resulting code is IMHO non-free. +</I> +If you look closer you will find that the source rpm actually contains the +zip file with the code that is supposed to be downloaded. It also contains +a .doc that apparently is not distributable. + +><i> I would suggest to drop it and to use +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/</A> , +</I>><i> which is more cleanly licensed ( Apache license ). +</I> +Is opencore-amr a drop-in replacement for amrnb/amrwb for ALL packages that +depend on it? +A quick google search didn't turn up a lot, only that apparently gstreamer +and ffmpeg can make use of opencore-amr. + +Is the audio quality comparable? +I couldn't find any indication of that, but gstreamer has put opencore-amr +into the ugly plugins, rather than bad where amrnb/amrwb are, I don't know +if that's an indication of worse quality. + +With regards to facc there is no equivalent replacement for it and it's +used by by a few projects so definitely can't be dropped. + +Also while the faac license is non-free, it's not a problem to distribute +it, so the only problem we have is to decide where to put it (keeping in +mind where packages that depend on it will go too). + +-- +Mageia ML Forum Gateway: <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003315.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003332.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3324">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3324">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3324">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3324">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003325.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003325.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dc8d7d909 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003325.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] default kde media player + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20default%20kde%20media%20player&In-Reply-To=%3C214a.4d7f87a7%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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+</I>><i> system("/bin/cp", "-a", '/dev/null', "$urpm->{root}/dev"); +</I>><i> } +</I>><i> +</I> +I think he is using rpm directly, not urpmi... + +-- +Thomas +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003323.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003327.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3326">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3326">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3326">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3326">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003327.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003327.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b3545778c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003327.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3Cm3lj0gjrz6.fsf%40blino.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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The +</I>><i> > resulting code is IMHO non-free. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you look closer you will find that the source rpm actually contains the +</I>><i> zip file with the code that is supposed to be downloaded. It also contains +</I>><i> a .doc that apparently is not distributable. +</I> +Then that's a bug that should be reported, as I said. + +><i> > I would suggest to drop it and to use +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/</A> , +</I>><i> > which is more cleanly licensed ( Apache license ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is opencore-amr a drop-in replacement for amrnb/amrwb for ALL packages that +</I>><i> depend on it? +</I>><i> A quick google search didn't turn up a lot, only that apparently gstreamer +</I>><i> and ffmpeg can make use of opencore-amr. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is the audio quality comparable? +</I> +I do not think the audio quality is what matter for the usage of AMR. +People that want a good audio quality will not take this codec as this +is sampled at 8kHz, and it is basically unused outside of phones, +patented, costly and standardized by 3GPP. + +For the only uses I can see for the codec, aka reading voice recorded +file from a phone, anything would work. And for people that want to +record ringtones, if the phone only support AMR, again, the quality is +not a issue, because that's likely a old phone with crappy speakers. + +><i> I couldn't find any indication of that, but gstreamer has put opencore-amr +</I>><i> into the ugly plugins, rather than bad where amrnb/amrwb are, I don't know +</I>><i> if that's an indication of worse quality. +</I> +The wikipedia page of gstreamer +( <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GStreamer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GStreamer</A> ) explain everything you want +to know : + +"This package contains plug-ins from the "ugly" set, a set of +good-quality plug-ins that might pose distribution problems.[14]" + +So that's likely the contrary. + +><i> With regards to facc there is no equivalent replacement for it and it's +</I>><i> used by by a few projects so definitely can't be dropped. +</I> +Almost anything can be dropped. + +I am not sure that the mix of LGPL and the specific license found in the +tarball is legit, and so I think we should drop it until things are +clearer. + +Faac is just the encoder part. Sure, this will annoy some people, but we +are not the one asking for money to be able to use a product, nor the +one restricting others. + +If the mix is legit, then we just move to non-free, and warn mirrors +that both non-free and tainted can cause troubles. + +><i> Also while the faac license is non-free, it's not a problem to distribute +</I>><i> it, so the only problem we have is to decide where to put it (keeping in +</I>><i> mind where packages that depend on it will go too). +</I> +If this is non-free, it goes to non-free, that's all. 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There is a vicious loop between dbus and its own library, +</I> +So? Both of the requires are correct from what I know, and dependency +loops are not forbidden. + +I can imagine there are also some more clear cases of such loops, like +library A depending on B, B on C, and C again on A, which I personally +don't believe are in the need of "solving". + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003335.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003339.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3333">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3333">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3333">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3333">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003334.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003334.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9ddaa1972 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003334.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3C1300206913.12645.108.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003329.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003335.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3C1300206913.12645.108.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 17:35:13 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003329.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003335.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3334">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3334">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3334">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3334">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 15 mars 2011 à 16:58 +0100, Olivier Blin a écrit : +><i> Thomas Backlund <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at iki.fi</A>> writes: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > On 15.3.2011 17:00, Thierry Vignaud wrote: +</I>><i> >> On 15 March 2011 15:47, Michael Scherer<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> >>>> 1) /dev/null is created by makedev which is required by basesystem-minimal. +</I>><i> >>>> 2) anyway, urpmi creates /dev/null if it doesn't exists anyway. +</I>><i> >>>> 3) urpmi is used by drakx-installer too. +</I>><i> >>>> +</I>><i> >>>> Every case should be thus covered. +</I>><i> >>>> However he did saw this error. +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> That's likely a ordering issue, related to the loops. +</I>><i> >>> makedev is installed in the end, after python. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > I think he is using rpm directly, not urpmi... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Do we really care about fixing all the corner cases in our installation +</I>><i> of a chroot without urpmi? +</I> +What if people want to use something else than urpmi ? +( like smartpm, etc ). + +><i> I'd say we should focus on the ones appearing with urpmi, or the one we +</I>><i> spot in DrakX logs. +</I> +We could too, but so far, no one gave use lits of errors to fix for +that :) + + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003329.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003335.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3334">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3334">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3334">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3334">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003335.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003335.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e1a463630 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003335.html @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikQvLXPjDj0wKhsp6qPhyXGW8RXUP0511KskZga%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003334.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003333.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix</H1> + <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikQvLXPjDj0wKhsp6qPhyXGW8RXUP0511KskZga%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 17:50:57 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003334.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003333.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3335">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3335">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3335">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3335">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 15 March 2011 17:35, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +>><i> > I think he is using rpm directly, not urpmi... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Do we really care about fixing all the corner cases in our installation +</I>>><i> of a chroot without urpmi? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What if people want to use something else than urpmi ? +</I>><i> ( like smartpm, etc ). +</I> +Well: +1) In a perfect world, every rpm manager would work the same way +2) smart is used on a installed system, with a populated /dev +3) we cannot workaround every possible faillure of every possible + package manager IMHO... + +>><i> I'd say we should focus on the ones appearing with urpmi, or the one we +</I>>><i> spot in DrakX logs. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We could too, but so far, no one gave use lits of errors to fix for +</I>><i> that :) +</I> +because we're already perfect :-) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003334.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003333.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3335">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3335">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3335">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3335">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003336.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003336.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4d03282e8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003336.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? 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And we link +</I>><i> nothing to it outside of non-free. +</I> +Which would mean other packages like gstreamer will have reduced +capability. + +I'm starting to wonder if my hope of helping towards making Mageia an even +better multimedia (audio/video) distro than Mandriva is, is unrealistic. + +-- +Mageia ML Forum Gateway: <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003332.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003341.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3336">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3336">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3336">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3336">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003337.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003337.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b85cf4c67 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003337.html @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Alpha-1%20Comments&In-Reply-To=%3C20110315184544.59791360%40werewolf.home%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003314.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003305.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments</H1> + <B>JA Magallón</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Alpha-1%20Comments&In-Reply-To=%3C20110315184544.59791360%40werewolf.home%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments">jamagallon at ono.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 18:45:44 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003314.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003305.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3337">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3337">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3337">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3337">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:33:35 +0100, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: + +><i> Le mardi 15 mars 2011 à 01:12 +0100, JA Magallón a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > And, now that you are building a new distro, perhaps the HOME layout could be changed. +</I>><i> > Nowadays: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Documents Templates Pictures Videos Music .... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Perhaps: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Documents Documents/Templates Media/Image Media/Video Media/Music +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > so in your ~home you just see 'Documents' and 'Media'. Just XDG default settings. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We follow the xdg standard : +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs">http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xdg-user-dirs</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So if you want change, you should push them there first. +</I>><i> +</I> +You can do whatever you think is correct, but changing locations is not going +against the standard. The standard just says how to set and query the location +for (for example) the Documents folder in a standard way. + +Since long time ago I use a .config/user-dirs.dirs like this: + +# This file is written by xdg-user-dirs-update +# If you want to change or add directories, just edit the line you're +# interested in. All local changes will be retained on the next run +# Format is XDG_xxx_DIR="$HOME/yyy", where yyy is a shell-escaped +# homedir-relative path, or XDG_xxx_DIR="/yyy", where /yyy is an +# absolute path. No other format is supported. +# +XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/.desktop-lnx" +XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="$HOME/doc" +XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR="$HOME/doc/templates" +XDG_MUSIC_DIR="$HOME/media/music" +XDG_PICTURES_DIR="$HOME/media/image" +XDG_VIDEOS_DIR="$HOME/media/video" +XDG_PUBLICSHARE_DIR="$HOME/pub" +XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR="$HOME/in" + +I don't like seeing the Desktop folder in my home, and I have all media +in one folder so it can be symlinked to a global media folder for all family +or mounted remotely. And everything works as should. + +You even have this in /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults: + +# Another alternative is: +#MUSIC=Documents/Music +#PICTURES=Documents/Pictures +#VIDEOS=Documents/Videos + +So perhaps a sane setting (no so unix-ish as mine) could be: + +DESKTOP=.Desktop +DOCUMENTS=Documents +TEMPLATES=Documents/Templates +MUSIC=Media/Music +PICTURES=Media/Pictures +VIDEOS=Media/Videos +PUBLICSHARE=Public +DOWNLOAD=Downloads + +-- +J.A. 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There is a vicious loop between dbus and its own library, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So? Both of the requires are correct from what I know, and dependency +</I>><i> loops are not forbidden. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can imagine there are also some more clear cases of such loops, like +</I>><i> library A depending on B, B on C, and C again on A, which I personally +</I>><i> don't believe are in the need of "solving". +</I> +We did have some troubles with loops at building time when we +bootstrapped the distribution, and we clearly wanted to remove them as +much as possible. + +A loop at runtime is potentially the sign of a loop at build time too. +So we should try to avoid them IMHO. + +In the case of dbus, yes, the requires are correct, but the ordering +seems wrong during the test. So either there is a bug in what ever jbj +is running, or we do use Requires(post) in a wrong way, or that's a +change somewhere. In any case, there is still the others problem to look +at :) + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003333.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003345.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3339">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3339">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3339">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3339">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003340.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003340.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dfd1721f3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003340.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] default kde media player + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20default%20kde%20media%20player&In-Reply-To=%3C215f.4d7fadc6%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003338.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003320.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] default kde media player</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20default%20kde%20media%20player&In-Reply-To=%3C215f.4d7fadc6%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] default kde media player">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 19:19:50 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003338.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003320.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3340">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3340">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3340">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3340">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +Quote: Maurice Batey wrote on Tue, 15 March 2011 18:54 +---------------------------------------------------- +><i> On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:37:13 +0100, Tux99 wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > so we are 2 in favor of dropping firefox. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Now that would help a lot to get Mageia great reviews.. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I do hope you're joking... +</I> +Of course, it was pure sarcasm, as a Brit you should have spotted that. ;) +-- +Mageia ML Forum Gateway: <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003338.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003320.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3340">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3340">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3340">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3340">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003341.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003341.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..119d78418 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003341.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? 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Stormi do ( or seems to do ). And I think that given we decided to +split PLF for that precise reason, there is more than 2 of us to care. + +><i> Putting tainted packages in nonfree just causes more confusion IMHO. +</I> +As much as the reverse, it all depends on what you tell to people about +the repository, what they expect and what you prefer to highlight. + +Putting tainted separated from non-free is a way to remind to people +that patents and various similar issues do still exists, that there is +problem regarding free software unrelated to license, and that's a +separate concern from being non-free. + +Putting non-free rpms in tainted will blur the line between the 2. + +The only use I would see about separating non-free and tainted is for +mirrors maintainers, but we cannot guarantee much regarding non-free, as +we had various weird stuff in PLF that would prevent some mirrors from +having it. + +><i> > If this is non-free, it goes to non-free, that's all. And we link +</I>><i> > nothing to it outside of non-free. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Which would mean other packages like gstreamer will have reduced +</I>><i> capability. +</I> +You should read some documents about gstreamer architecture. + +Nothing prevent to have a single plugin in non-free linked to anything +there, and loaded by gstreamer later. Yes, this may be more work but I +assume that people who have time to post on mls have time to get things +done. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003336.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003342.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3341">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3341">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3341">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3341">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003342.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003342.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cadaf9093 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003342.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Repository%20question%3A%20where%20do%20we%20put%0A%09non-free%2Btainted%20RPMs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C2164.4d7fbf58%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003341.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003343.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Repository%20question%3A%20where%20do%20we%20put%0A%09non-free%2Btainted%20RPMs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C2164.4d7fbf58%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 20:34:50 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003341.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3342">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3342">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3342">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3342">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Tue, 15 March 2011 20:21 + +><i> Because some people do not care about patents and using tainted stuff, +</I>><i> but do care about free licenses and do care about what it bring to +</I>><i> them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I do. Stormi do ( or seems to do ). And I think that given we decided +</I>><i> to +</I>><i> split PLF for that precise reason, there is more than 2 of us to care. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Putting tainted packages in nonfree just causes more confusion +</I>><i> > IMHO. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As much as the reverse, it all depends on what you tell to people +</I>><i> about +</I>><i> the repository, what they expect and what you prefer to highlight. +</I> +That's exactly why I suggested earlier in this thread that we need an +additional repo for 'tainted+non-free' packages, that's the only solution +that would satisfy every preference people might have and at the same time +make things clear for everyone (packagers, mirror maintainers, users). + +Putting 'tainted+non-free' packages into 'non-free' is a messy +unsatisfactory workaround, not a real solution. +-- +Mageia ML Forum Gateway: <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003341.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3342">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3342">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3342">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3342">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003343.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003343.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1d5a65ac0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003343.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Repository%20question%3A%20where%20do%20we%20put%0A%20non-free%2Btainted%20RPMs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1300221005.12645.167.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003342.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003344.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Repository%20question%3A%20where%20do%20we%20put%0A%20non-free%2Btainted%20RPMs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1300221005.12645.167.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 21:30:05 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003342.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003344.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3343">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3343">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3343">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3343">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 15 mars 2011 à 20:34 +0100, Tux99 a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Tue, 15 March 2011 20:21 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Because some people do not care about patents and using tainted stuff, +</I>><i> > but do care about free licenses and do care about what it bring to +</I>><i> > them. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I do. Stormi do ( or seems to do ). And I think that given we decided +</I>><i> > to +</I>><i> > split PLF for that precise reason, there is more than 2 of us to care. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > Putting tainted packages in nonfree just causes more confusion +</I>><i> > > IMHO. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > As much as the reverse, it all depends on what you tell to people +</I>><i> > about +</I>><i> > the repository, what they expect and what you prefer to highlight. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's exactly why I suggested earlier in this thread that we need an +</I>><i> additional repo for 'tainted+non-free' packages, that's the only solution +</I>><i> that would satisfy every preference people might have and at the same time +</I>><i> make things clear for everyone (packagers, mirror maintainers, users). +</I> +Instead of moving stuff in non-free, you move them in non-free + +tainted. That just bring more headaches, and more complexity. + +That's not a solution. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003342.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003344.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3343">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3343">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3343">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3343">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003344.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003344.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9e3234153 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003344.html @@ -0,0 +1,137 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Repository%20question%3A%20where%20do%20we%20put%0A%09non-free%2Btainted%20RPMs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C2168.4d7fdf18%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003343.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003348.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Repository%20question%3A%20where%20do%20we%20put%0A%09non-free%2Btainted%20RPMs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C2168.4d7fdf18%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 22:50:17 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003348.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3344">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3344">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3344">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3344">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Tue, 15 March 2011 21:30 +---------------------------------------------------- +><i> Le mardi 15 mars 2011 à 20:34 +0100, Tux99 a écrit : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Tue, 15 March 2011 20:21 +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > Because some people do not care about patents and using tainted +</I>><i> > > stuff, +</I>><i> > > but do care about free licenses and do care about what it bring +</I>><i> > > to +</I>><i> > > them. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I do. Stormi do ( or seems to do ). And I think that given we +</I>><i> > > decided +</I>><i> > > to +</I>><i> > > split PLF for that precise reason, there is more than 2 of us +</I>><i> > > to care. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > > Putting tainted packages in nonfree just causes more +</I>><i> > > > confusion +</I>><i> > > > IMHO. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > As much as the reverse, it all depends on what you tell to +</I>><i> > > people +</I>><i> > > about +</I>><i> > > the repository, what they expect and what you prefer to +</I>><i> > > highlight. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > That's exactly why I suggested earlier in this thread that we need +</I>><i> > an +</I>><i> > additional repo for 'tainted+non-free' packages, that's the only +</I>><i> > solution +</I>><i> > that would satisfy every preference people might have and at the +</I>><i> > same time +</I>><i> > make things clear for everyone (packagers, mirror maintainers, +</I>><i> > users). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Instead of moving stuff in non-free, you move them in non-free + +</I>><i> tainted. +</I> +Nothing is being moved, these packages aren't in any repo yet. + +We are trying to decide what the best possible solution is. + +><i> That just bring more headaches, and more complexity. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's not a solution. +</I> +Sorry but your answer is not a proper argument, it only gives me the +impression that you are summarily dismissing anything that you personally +don't like and after dictating how things have to be done. + +Benefits of creating a separate 'tainted+non-free' as I mentioned in my +previous post: +- clear separation of packages based on free/no-free and tainted/no-tainted +status +- mirror maintainers can easily exclude tainted packages if the laws of +their country require it +- users can easily select packages according to their beliefs +(free/non-free) or legal concerns (patent issues) + +Also I thought that in the debate about whether to separate 'tainted' +packages that was held here on this ML in the early days, the main +argument was that it should be easy for users and mirror maintainers to +avoid packages with patent issues if they so wish. Your decision to put +'tainted+non-free' packages in 'non-free' completely undermines that, +therefore I don't consider it a reasonable solution. + +><i>From a packager point of view the best decision would be to put +</I>'tainted+non-free' packages in 'tainted' since they are most likely to +have dependencies in 'tainted'. + +If you don't want 'tainted+non-free' packages in 'tainted' then they might +as well go in a separate 'tainted+non-free' repository, since the added +complexity for the packager is the same regardless if they go in +'tainted+non-free' or 'non-free'. + +-- +Mageia ML Forum Gateway: <A HREF="http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/">http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003348.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3344">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3344">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3344">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3344">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003345.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003345.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b4fd35058 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003345.html @@ -0,0 +1,157 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3C201103152257.59200.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003339.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003328.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packaging%20errors%20to%20fix&In-Reply-To=%3C201103152257.59200.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 22:57:59 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003339.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003328.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3345">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3345">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3345">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3345">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op dinsdag 15 maart 2011 19:06:28 schreef Michael Scherer: +><i> Le mardi 15 mars 2011 à 18:34 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit : +</I>><i> > On 15.03.2011 15:38, Michael Scherer wrote: +</I>><i> > > 3rd : dbus. There is a vicious loop between dbus and its own library, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So? Both of the requires are correct from what I know, and dependency +</I>><i> > loops are not forbidden. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I can imagine there are also some more clear cases of such loops, like +</I>><i> > library A depending on B, B on C, and C again on A, which I personally +</I>><i> > don't believe are in the need of "solving". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We did have some troubles with loops at building time when we +</I>><i> bootstrapped the distribution, and we clearly wanted to remove them as +</I>><i> much as possible. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A loop at runtime is potentially the sign of a loop at build time too. +</I>><i> So we should try to avoid them IMHO. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In the case of dbus, yes, the requires are correct, but the ordering +</I>><i> seems wrong during the test. So either there is a bug in what ever jbj +</I>><i> is running, or we do use Requires(post) in a wrong way, or that's a +</I>><i> change somewhere. In any case, there is still the others problem to look +</I>><i> at :) +</I> +imho, i think if loops are unneeded or solvable, we should try to do that if +it's doable in a short time. + +when we were talking about loops at bootstrap time, this is a whole different +area, i think most of the loops are not really solvable, but we should find a +way to make it easier and possibly documented, or even automagically... + +for example: + - you can bootstrap X by installing Y without functionality Z + +if we would have some way to note how this is done, perhaps we can even do it +automagically on buildsystem level. + +looking at this from my pov, perhaps having a spec file macro isn't a bad idea: + +%bootstrap(%feature1 %feature2 ...) + +would be nice, if building it with for example --bootstrap, would deactivate +all those features + +then you could let buildsystem build once with --bootstrap and once without it +after the dependencies are done + +if you'd look at things even more, we could do something like this: + +%build_order(<group>:<order_nr>) + +then with buildsystem one could build a bunch of packages and the buildsystem +could order them according to the group. + + +eg java: (totally fictional example, i know nothing about java packaging) +============================================ + +in package A: +---------------- +%bootstrap(maven eclipse) +%build_order(java:1) + +%if %maven +... +%endif + + + +in package B: +---------------- +%bootstrap(maven) +%build_order(java:2) + +%if %maven +... +%endif + + +in package maven: +----------------------- +%bootstrap(eclipse) +%build_order(java:500) + + + +you will all agree that i'm talking bollocks here, as this is totally not how +it is. + +However, if you have something like this, you could theoretically say to +buildsystem: "build java for me" + +it could then find all spec files with build_order java, sort them on the +number, and build and submit them all in the order. and after it's done, do +this again with the ones that had bootstrap defined. + + +to me, it sounds like a good theoretical solution and it would still be +usefull, even after bootstrapping. no idea if it would take alot of work or +not or even practically possible. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003339.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003328.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3345">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3345">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3345">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3345">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003346.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003346.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b1c0f6ae7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003346.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? 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It might cause too much confusion, +</I>>><i> though, +</I>>><i> as the error message wouldn't be very clear. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I agree that the metapackage solution is impractical since it would cause +</I>><i> too much confusion for users. +</I> +We could make it +Requires: nonfree-repository-required + +or similar so that the error message would give a better hint of what is +wrong. + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003346.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3347">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3347">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3347">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3347">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003348.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003348.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..de78997d4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/003348.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Repository%20question%3A%20where%20do%20we%0A%20put%09non-free%2Btainted%20RPMs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4D7FEF08.8010407%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003344.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003300.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Repository%20question%3A%20where%20do%20we%0A%20put%09non-free%2Btainted%20RPMs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4D7FEF08.8010407%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Tue Mar 15 23:58:16 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003344.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003300.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3348">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3348">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3348">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3348">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Tux99 a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> I was looking at Mandriva non-free SRPM directory since Mageia doesn't have +</I>><i> much in non-free yet. +</I>><i> I haven't actually counted if the majority has source or not, so you might +</I>><i> be right, but we are digressing here because like I said in the first post +</I>><i> the question here in this thread is about a package that has code with a +</I>><i> non-free license but is open source (and is 'tainted'). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To quote my initial mail: +</I>><i> "... what the appropriate repository for a package is that's both non-free +</I>><i> (open source but not a FOSS license) and tainted (contains sw. that is +</I>><i> covered by patents in some parts of the world)." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To complicate matters further this package will have dependencies to some +</I>><i> other 'tainted' packages, which also a reason why 'tainted' seems more +</I>><i> appropiate for this specifica package at least. +</I> +What do you mean by "open source but not a FOSS license" ? +Normally "open source" means that it is licensed to be freely +redistributed (without royalties), with available source code. +Public domain software with available source code, although not having a +FOSS license, is also considered free. + +As for the point about potential patent claims, in the U.S. (the usual +example), I don't know of any example of a mirror of an open source +distro that has had problems with software patent claims. +In the U.S., software patent claims are made against those who make +money from the software, and few such cases succeed. No money is to be +made by pursuing those who give away software for free. +Ubuntu, for example, has many mirrors in the U.S. carrying potentially +patent-threatened software, without problems. + +I would suggest that if the software in question is _really_ open +source, put it in "core". If not, put it in "non-free". +If eventually it becomes _directly_ threatened by software patent +claims, _then_ consider transfering it to another repository. + +(Besides the practical question of only responding to a potential threat +when really needed, if you don't consider software patents legitimate, +there is nothing inherently wrong with the software anyway. As long as +it works. +So why call it "tainted".) + +my 2 cents :) +-- +André +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003344.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003300.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3348">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3348">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3348">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3348">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4e23cf0cb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,297 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 15 March 2011 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>15 March 2011 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Mar 15 00:18:34 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Mar 15 23:58:16 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 50<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="003326.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3326"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003338.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3338"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003327.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3327"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003330.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A><A NAME="3330"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003317.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3317"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003315.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? 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+</A><A NAME="3299"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003303.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3303"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003305.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3305"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003312.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3312"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003313.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A><A NAME="3313"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003314.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3314"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003319.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3319"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003320.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3320"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003322.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3322"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003332.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3332"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003334.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3334"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003339.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3339"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003341.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3341"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3343"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003306.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3306"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003328.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A><A NAME="3328"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003301.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3301"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003304.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3304"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003309.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3309"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003324.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3324"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003325.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3325"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003336.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3336"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003340.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3340"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003342.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3342"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003344.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3344"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003307.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3307"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003345.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3345"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003321.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3321"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003323.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3323"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003329.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3329"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003335.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3335"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003310.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A><A NAME="3310"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003348.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3348"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003318.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 aka Primavera available +</A><A NAME="3318"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Tue Mar 15 23:58:16 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Mar 15 23:57:49 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/date.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..474358af9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/date.html @@ -0,0 +1,297 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 15 March 2011 Archive by date</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>15 March 2011 Archives by date</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Mar 15 00:18:34 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Mar 15 23:58:16 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 50<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="003299.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3299"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003300.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3300"> </A> +<I>JA Magallón +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003301.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3301"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003302.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3302"> </A> +<I>JA Magallón +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003303.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3303"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003304.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3304"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003305.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3305"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003306.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3306"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003307.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3307"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003308.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3308"> </A> +<I>Balcaen John +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003309.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3309"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003310.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A><A NAME="3310"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003311.html">[Mageia-dev] Welcome to Eclipse +</A><A NAME="3311"> </A> +<I>Dexter Morgan +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003312.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3312"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003313.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A><A NAME="3313"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003314.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3314"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003315.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3315"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003316.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A><A NAME="3316"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003317.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3317"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003318.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 aka Primavera available +</A><A NAME="3318"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003319.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3319"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003320.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3320"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003321.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3321"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003322.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3322"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003323.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3323"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003324.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3324"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003325.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3325"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003326.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3326"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003327.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3327"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003328.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A><A NAME="3328"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003329.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3329"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003330.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A><A NAME="3330"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003331.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A><A NAME="3331"> </A> +<I>Thorsten van Lil +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003332.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3332"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003333.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3333"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003334.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3334"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003335.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3335"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003336.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3336"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003337.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3337"> </A> +<I>JA Magallón +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003338.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3338"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003339.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3339"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003340.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3340"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003341.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3341"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003342.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3342"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3343"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003344.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3344"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003345.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3345"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003346.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3346"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003347.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3347"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003348.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3348"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Tue Mar 15 23:58:16 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Mar 15 23:57:49 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110315/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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23:58:16 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 50<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="003310.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A><A NAME="3310"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003316.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A><A NAME="3316"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003313.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A><A NAME="3313"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003300.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3300"> </A> +<I>JA Magallón +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003302.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3302"> </A> +<I>JA Magallón +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003305.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3305"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003306.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3306"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003307.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3307"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003308.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3308"> </A> +<I>Balcaen John +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003314.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3314"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003317.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3317"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003337.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3337"> </A> +<I>JA Magallón +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003318.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 aka Primavera available +</A><A NAME="3318"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003319.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3319"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003325.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3325"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003338.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3338"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003340.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3340"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003328.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A><A NAME="3328"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003330.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A><A NAME="3330"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003331.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A><A NAME="3331"> </A> +<I>Thorsten van Lil +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003320.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3320"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003321.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3321"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003322.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3322"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003323.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3323"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003326.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3326"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003327.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3327"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003329.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3329"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003333.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3333"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003334.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3334"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003335.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3335"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003339.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3339"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003345.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3345"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003301.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3301"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003304.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3304"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003309.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3309"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003324.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3324"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003336.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3336"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003342.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3342"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003344.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3344"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003347.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3347"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003348.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3348"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003299.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3299"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003303.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3303"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003312.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3312"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003315.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3315"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003332.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3332"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003341.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3341"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3343"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003346.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3346"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003311.html">[Mageia-dev] Welcome to Eclipse +</A><A NAME="3311"> </A> +<I>Dexter Morgan +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Tue Mar 15 23:58:16 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Mar 15 23:57:49 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was 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2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Mar 15 23:58:16 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 50<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01300144714- --> +<LI><A HREF="003299.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3299"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01300144714-01300147144- --> +<LI><A HREF="003301.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3301"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175- --> +<LI><A HREF="003303.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3303"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175-01300149181- --> +<LI><A HREF="003304.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3304"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<!--3 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175-01300149181-01300161969- --> +<LI><A HREF="003309.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3309"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<!--3 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175-01300149181-01300161969-01300184886- --> +<LI><A HREF="003312.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3312"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175-01300149181-01300161969-01300184886-01300185882- --> +<LI><A HREF="003315.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3315"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<!--3 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175-01300149181-01300161969-01300184886-01300202018- --> +<LI><A HREF="003324.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3324"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<!--3 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175-01300149181-01300161969-01300184886-01300202018-01300206791- --> +<LI><A HREF="003332.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3332"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175-01300149181-01300161969-01300184886-01300202018-01300206791-01300210564- --> +<LI><A HREF="003336.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3336"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<!--3 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175-01300149181-01300161969-01300184886-01300202018-01300206791-01300210564-01300216891- --> +<LI><A HREF="003341.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3341"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175-01300149181-01300161969-01300184886-01300202018-01300206791-01300210564-01300216891-01300217690- --> +<LI><A HREF="003342.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3342"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<!--3 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175-01300149181-01300161969-01300184886-01300202018-01300206791-01300210564-01300216891-01300217690-01300221005- --> +<LI><A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3343"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175-01300149181-01300161969-01300184886-01300202018-01300206791-01300210564-01300216891-01300217690-01300221005-01300225817- --> +<LI><A HREF="003344.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3344"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<!--3 01300144714-01300147144-01300148175-01300149181-01300229896- --> +<LI><A HREF="003348.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3348"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01300146383- --> +<LI><A HREF="003300.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3300"> </A> +<I>JA Magallón +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01300146383-01300147962- --> +<LI><A HREF="003302.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3302"> </A> +<I>JA Magallón +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01300146383-01300147962-01300155667- --> +<LI><A HREF="003308.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3308"> </A> +<I>Balcaen John +</I> + +<!--2 01300146383-01300147962-01300185215- --> +<LI><A HREF="003314.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3314"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01300146383-01300147962-01300185215-01300211144- --> +<LI><A HREF="003337.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3337"> </A> +<I>JA Magallón +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--1 01300146383-01300149304- --> +<LI><A HREF="003305.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3305"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01300146383-01300149304-01300151161- --> +<LI><A HREF="003306.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3306"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01300146383-01300149304-01300151161-01300155025- --> +<LI><A HREF="003307.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3307"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--3 01300146383-01300149304-01300151161-01300155025-01300187890- --> +<LI><A HREF="003317.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha-1 Comments +</A><A NAME="3317"> </A> +<I>Colin Guthrie +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01300174048- --> +<LI><A HREF="003310.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A><A NAME="3310"> </A> +<I>andre999 +</I> + +<!--0 01300175480- --> +<LI><A HREF="003311.html">[Mageia-dev] Welcome to Eclipse +</A><A NAME="3311"> </A> +<I>Dexter Morgan +</I> + +<!--0 01300185060- --> +<LI><A HREF="003313.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A><A NAME="3313"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--0 01300186090- --> +<LI><A HREF="003316.html">[Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release playonlinux-3.8.8-2.mga1 +</A><A NAME="3316"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<!--0 01300190088- --> +<LI><A HREF="003318.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha2 aka Primavera available +</A><A NAME="3318"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<!--0 01300195613- --> +<LI><A HREF="003319.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3319"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01300195613-01300203433- --> +<LI><A HREF="003325.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3325"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01300195613-01300203433-01300211693- --> +<LI><A HREF="003338.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3338"> </A> +<I>Maurice Batey +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01300195613-01300203433-01300211693-01300213190- --> +<LI><A HREF="003340.html">[Mageia-dev] default kde media player +</A><A NAME="3340"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01300196288- --> +<LI><A HREF="003320.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3320"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01300196288-01300198623- --> +<LI><A HREF="003321.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3321"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01300196288-01300198623-01300200469- --> +<LI><A HREF="003322.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3322"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01300196288-01300198623-01300200469-01300201201- --> +<LI><A HREF="003323.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3323"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<!--3 01300196288-01300198623-01300200469-01300201201-01300203594- --> +<LI><A HREF="003326.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3326"> </A> +<I>Thomas Backlund +</I> + +<!--3 01300196288-01300198623-01300200469-01300201201-01300203594-01300204701- --> +<LI><A HREF="003327.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3327"> </A> +<I>Olivier Blin +</I> + +<!--3 01300196288-01300198623-01300200469-01300201201-01300203594-01300204701-01300205632- --> +<LI><A HREF="003329.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3329"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +<!--3 01300196288-01300198623-01300200469-01300201201-01300203594-01300204701-01300206913- --> +<LI><A HREF="003334.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3334"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01300196288-01300198623-01300200469-01300201201-01300203594-01300204701-01300206913-01300207857- --> +<LI><A HREF="003335.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3335"> </A> +<I>Thierry Vignaud +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--1 01300196288-01300206843- --> +<LI><A HREF="003333.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3333"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01300196288-01300206843-01300212388- --> +<LI><A HREF="003339.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3339"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01300196288-01300206843-01300212388-01300226279- --> +<LI><A HREF="003345.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix +</A><A NAME="3345"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01300205419- --> +<LI><A HREF="003328.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A><A NAME="3328"> </A> +<I>Thomas Spuhler +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01300205419-01300205678- --> +<LI><A HREF="003330.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A><A NAME="3330"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<!--1 01300205419-01300205708- --> +<LI><A HREF="003331.html">[Mageia-dev] Packages cannot be searched in MCC +</A><A NAME="3331"> </A> +<I>Thorsten van Lil +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01300227031- --> +<LI><A HREF="003346.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3346"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<!--0 01300227865- --> +<LI><A HREF="003347.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A><A NAME="3347"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Tue Mar 15 23:58:16 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Mar 15 23:57:49 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |