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The +</I>><i> > resulting code is IMHO non-free. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If you look closer you will find that the source rpm actually contains the +</I>><i> zip file with the code that is supposed to be downloaded. It also contains +</I>><i> a .doc that apparently is not distributable. +</I> +Then that's a bug that should be reported, as I said. + +><i> > I would suggest to drop it and to use +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/</A> , +</I>><i> > which is more cleanly licensed ( Apache license ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is opencore-amr a drop-in replacement for amrnb/amrwb for ALL packages that +</I>><i> depend on it? +</I>><i> A quick google search didn't turn up a lot, only that apparently gstreamer +</I>><i> and ffmpeg can make use of opencore-amr. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is the audio quality comparable? +</I> +I do not think the audio quality is what matter for the usage of AMR. +People that want a good audio quality will not take this codec as this +is sampled at 8kHz, and it is basically unused outside of phones, +patented, costly and standardized by 3GPP. + +For the only uses I can see for the codec, aka reading voice recorded +file from a phone, anything would work. And for people that want to +record ringtones, if the phone only support AMR, again, the quality is +not a issue, because that's likely a old phone with crappy speakers. + +><i> I couldn't find any indication of that, but gstreamer has put opencore-amr +</I>><i> into the ugly plugins, rather than bad where amrnb/amrwb are, I don't know +</I>><i> if that's an indication of worse quality. +</I> +The wikipedia page of gstreamer +( <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GStreamer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GStreamer</A> ) explain everything you want +to know : + +"This package contains plug-ins from the "ugly" set, a set of +good-quality plug-ins that might pose distribution problems.[14]" + +So that's likely the contrary. + +><i> With regards to facc there is no equivalent replacement for it and it's +</I>><i> used by by a few projects so definitely can't be dropped. +</I> +Almost anything can be dropped. + +I am not sure that the mix of LGPL and the specific license found in the +tarball is legit, and so I think we should drop it until things are +clearer. + +Faac is just the encoder part. Sure, this will annoy some people, but we +are not the one asking for money to be able to use a product, nor the +one restricting others. + +If the mix is legit, then we just move to non-free, and warn mirrors +that both non-free and tainted can cause troubles. + +><i> Also while the faac license is non-free, it's not a problem to distribute +</I>><i> it, so the only problem we have is to decide where to put it (keeping in +</I>><i> mind where packages that depend on it will go too). +</I> +If this is non-free, it goes to non-free, that's all. And we link +nothing to it outside of non-free. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003324.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003336.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3332">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3332">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3332">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3332">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |