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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] proposal regarding (packager) mentoring program coordinator</H1>
+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+ <I>Sat Jul 2 01:11:29 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le samedi 2 juillet 2011 01:07:00, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 1 juillet 2011 22:49:29, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Fri, 01 Jul 2011, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; We would like to have an email address for the team, which would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; direct messages to all team members.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It could be <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mentoring at mageia.org</A> or similar (suggested by Daniel).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; We keep @mageia.org for real persons. The usual way to have a group
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; mail is something along <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">foo at group.mageia.org</A>, and this requires a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; ldap group. ( which in turn requires 1) identity account 2) a list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; of person, and someone to manage the group )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Would something like <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">coord at pmentoring.mageia.org</A> be Ok ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; No, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">foo at group.mageia.org</A> with foo replaced by the group name.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Presumably I would manage the group, which would include at least
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; magnus + Daniel. So who should I talk to about setting it up ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Would I be able to add new persons myself, or would I have to request
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; it ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; What would be the use of this group and alias ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Shouldn't most discussions be public, so on a mailing list ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This would be for potential packager apprentices or others to easily
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; contact all members the mentoring coordinator team.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So one of us can respond quickly, mostly to update our packages_mentoring
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wiki page. (Which will be ready in the next few days.)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We could also use it to discuss among ourselves, which we now do by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; private email. So it wouldn't be of general interest. We wouldn't want
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; those outside our group responding to messages received, like in a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; public mailing list.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (The group might include a few outside our team.)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (It could include mentors, but they will see useful info on our wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; page.) A restricted-access mailing list should work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think there's a need for restricted access, and it would be
+</I>&gt;<i> opposite to the way we try to do everything in the open.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What you need is
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) a way to be contacted directly by those who need (apprentices)
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) a way to discuss within members of the team, but maybe other people too
+</I>&gt;<i> if some want to join the discussion
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For 1), I think your @mageia.org address once you will get one is
+</I>&gt;<i> sufficient. It's only one means of communication among others (MLs,
+</I>&gt;<i> forums, wiki), so I don't think a group is necessarily needed for that.
+</I>&gt;<i> You can still forward requests you can't handle yourself.
+</I>
+That being said, I have nothing against the use of a group for that, but only
+as a contact e-mail, not for discussion, or only for sensitive discussion
+about specific persons.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For 2), I don't know what is better :
+</I>&gt;<i> - use an existing mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> - create a new one
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think you must try to use direct e-mail among you only when there's a
+</I>&gt;<i> good reason to avoid public discussion. Saying that it's not of general
+</I>&gt;<i> interest is not a good enough reason, I think. Do you have other reasons
+</I>&gt;<i> for wanting a private mailing list ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
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