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<H1>[Mageia-dev] proposal regarding (packager) mentoring program coordinator</H1>
<B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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<I>Sat Jul 2 01:11:29 CEST 2011</I>
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<PRE>Le samedi 2 juillet 2011 01:07:00, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
><i> Le vendredi 1 juillet 2011 22:49:29, andre999 a écrit :
</I>><i> > nicolas vigier a écrit :
</I>><i> > > On Fri, 01 Jul 2011, andre999 wrote:
</I>><i> > >>>> We would like to have an email address for the team, which would
</I>><i> > >>>> direct messages to all team members.
</I>><i> > >>>> It could be <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mentoring at mageia.org</A> or similar (suggested by Daniel).
</I>><i> > >>>
</I>><i> > >>> We keep @mageia.org for real persons. The usual way to have a group
</I>><i> > >>> mail is something along <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">foo at group.mageia.org</A>, and this requires a
</I>><i> > >>> ldap group. ( which in turn requires 1) identity account 2) a list
</I>><i> > >>> of person, and someone to manage the group )
</I>><i> > >>
</I>><i> > >> Would something like <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">coord at pmentoring.mageia.org</A> be Ok ?
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > No, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">foo at group.mageia.org</A> with foo replaced by the group name.
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > >> Presumably I would manage the group, which would include at least
</I>><i> > >> magnus + Daniel. So who should I talk to about setting it up ?
</I>><i> > >> Would I be able to add new persons myself, or would I have to request
</I>><i> > >> it ?
</I>><i> > >
</I>><i> > > What would be the use of this group and alias ?
</I>><i> > > Shouldn't most discussions be public, so on a mailing list ?
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > This would be for potential packager apprentices or others to easily
</I>><i> > contact all members the mentoring coordinator team.
</I>><i> > So one of us can respond quickly, mostly to update our packages_mentoring
</I>><i> > wiki page. (Which will be ready in the next few days.)
</I>><i> > We could also use it to discuss among ourselves, which we now do by
</I>><i> > private email. So it wouldn't be of general interest. We wouldn't want
</I>><i> > those outside our group responding to messages received, like in a
</I>><i> > public mailing list.
</I>><i> > (The group might include a few outside our team.)
</I>><i> > (It could include mentors, but they will see useful info on our wiki
</I>><i> > page.) A restricted-access mailing list should work.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I don't think there's a need for restricted access, and it would be
</I>><i> opposite to the way we try to do everything in the open.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> What you need is
</I>><i> 1) a way to be contacted directly by those who need (apprentices)
</I>><i> 2) a way to discuss within members of the team, but maybe other people too
</I>><i> if some want to join the discussion
</I>><i>
</I>><i> For 1), I think your @mageia.org address once you will get one is
</I>><i> sufficient. It's only one means of communication among others (MLs,
</I>><i> forums, wiki), so I don't think a group is necessarily needed for that.
</I>><i> You can still forward requests you can't handle yourself.
</I>
That being said, I have nothing against the use of a group for that, but only
as a contact e-mail, not for discussion, or only for sensitive discussion
about specific persons.
><i>
</I>><i> For 2), I don't know what is better :
</I>><i> - use an existing mailing list
</I>><i> - create a new one
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I think you must try to use direct e-mail among you only when there's a
</I>><i> good reason to avoid public discussion. Saying that it's not of general
</I>><i> interest is not a good enough reason, I think. Do you have other reasons
</I>><i> for wanting a private mailing list ?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Best regards
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde
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