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And in +</I>>>>>>><i> reality the existence of a patent doesn't necessarily mean it's +</I>>>>>>><i> enforceable in a court of law (the only way we'd know for sure is if +</I>>>>>>><i> someone actually does try to sue)... my 0.02€ worth :) +</I>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Generally only potentially "illegal" in some countries. +</I>>>><i> "Tainted" means contaminated, polluted. A lot stronger than +</I>>>><i> potentially "illegal". (Really only actionable in a civil sense, not +</I>>>><i> criminally illegal, as well.) +</I>>>><i> A package could end up there due to an apparently credible rumour, +</I>>>><i> later discredited. (Anyone remember SCO ?) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I agree. Problematic comes closer to "potentially illegal", so I looked +</I>>><i> up some synonyms: ambiguous, debatable, dubious, +</I>>><i> iffy, suspect, speculative, precarious, suspicious, uncertain, +</I>>><i> unsettled, in addition to problematic itself. Personally +</I>>><i> I like iffy, which is both short and to the point, but I think several +</I>>><i> of these would do. WDYT? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Dale Huckeby +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> A much better set of choices. +</I>><i> (Thanks for looking these up. Good idea.) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Let's remember that the question for these packages is not the quality of +</I>><i> their functioning - but rather the advisability to use them, for other +</I>><i> reasons, in some countries. +</I>><i> So I think that it is better to avoid words that could question the QUALITY +</I>><i> of the packages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Words in the list like +</I>><i> ambiguous, debatable, problematic, and speculative +</I>><i> avoid questioning the quality ... but could be too long or too formal. +</I>><i> Or just not catchy enough ;) +</I>><i> ("Iffy" might be ok - certainly catchy enough.) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Additional words I found in Roget's thesaurus, along the same lines : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Associated more with debatable : +</I>><i> arguable, contestable, controvertible, disputable, questionable, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Associated more with controversial : +</I>><i> confutable, deniable, mistakable, moot +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of these additional words, I think that "contestable", "disputable", and +</I>><i> "controversial" are probably closest to the SENSE of the repositories. +</I>><i> But maybe too formal ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Many of these words could be good choices. +</I>><i> And maybe someone will come up with some more ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> my 2 cents :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - André +</I>><i> +</I> +What about: main, free, non-free? +In main is everything what belongs to the core, free contains only packages +which are under a free license and in non-free are those which aren't clear +if free or not (what you mentioned earlier in this discussion). + +All three names are as clear as possible what's meant. + +-- +Mit freundlichen Grüßen + +Greetings + +Daniel Kreuter +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101205/da2938d0/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001604.html">[Mageia-dev] Support policy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001609.html">[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1605">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1605">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1605">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1605">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |