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I think it is best if these are not +</I>>><i> > > +</I>>><i> > > installed but let users know where to get them, mostly through PLF. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > How do you expect Mageia to verify each single package to make sure it +</I>>><i> > complies with the laws in ALL countries of the world? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So, because we can't comply with all laws in all coutnries, we should +</I>>><i> violate everyone we possibly can? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Because we can't be aware of all laws in all countries, we should do nothing ? +</I>><i> (after all that's the best way to break no law at all !) +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> > Mageia should make sure that the packages comply with French law, but +</I>>><i> > that's it. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If Mageia wants mirrors in countries with strong IP protection laws +</I>>><i> (including copyright, software patent) and anti-circumvention laws, then +</I>>><i> IMHO, there does need to be a split, so mirror maintainers can decide +</I>>><i> which risks they can accept. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For example, in the DMCA case, I believe US mirrors hosting libdvdcss could +</I>>><i> be vulnerable. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There are mirrors of plf in USA, there is at least one mirror of ArchLinux in +</I>><i> USA that provides libdvdcss, there is at least one mirror of Linux Mint in the +</I>><i> USA that provides libdvdcss, there is PCLinuxOS based in USA (Texas ?) that +</I>><i> provides libdvdcss +</I>><i> +</I>><i> VLC is available in USA to download (cnet.com) and VLC provides its own lib +</I>><i> for decoding (and coding) multimedia files (and from what i know, windows +</I>><i> binaries come with libdvdcss) +</I>><i> +</I> +There's a difference between "they can't be sued out of their homes" +and "they can be sued, just no one's done it yet". As with any legal +issues, it's always a CYA situation. + +>><i> +</I>>><i> > You can still install Mageia and then remove the packages that are +</I>>><i> > problematic in your country, I very much doubt your laws are that +</I>>><i> > draconian that you can't even do that. +</I>>><i> > Mageia could include an option during install to exclude the well-known +</I>>><i> > problematic packages from installation to make this easier for people +</I>>><i> > that live in countries with restrictive laws. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > > When I install Mandriva Free for people, I will let them know where the +</I>>><i> > > +</I>>><i> > > PLF repos are and the files needed and they install these themselves. +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > This is a major hassle for new/inexperienced users and IMHO should be +</I>>><i> > avoided. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Maybe it can be improved *to some extent*, by asking the user if they want +</I>>><i> to add additional repositories. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We cannot ask users to add third-part repos. We have discussing about Mageia +</I>><i> repos, policies of third-part repos should not be in our discussion. +</I>><i> +</I> +If we want to ask users to add 3rd party repos, then 3rd party repos +are already a part of this discussion. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001130.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001131.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1132">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1132">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1132">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1132">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |