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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc</H1>
<B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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<I>Wed Oct 13 15:47:00 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>On 13 October 2010 15:34, Olivier Méjean <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">omejean at yahoo.fr</A>> wrote:
><i> Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 10:19:17, Buchan Milne a écrit :
</I>>><i> On Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:52:58 Tux99 wrote:
</I>>><i> > Quote: marc wrote on Tue, 12 October 2010 18:42
</I>>><i> >
</I>>><i> > > Unfortunately, if this is done, I will no longer be able to install
</I>>><i> > > legally any Mageia due to our laws. I think it is best if these are not
</I>>><i> > >
</I>>><i> > > installed but let users know where to get them, mostly through PLF.
</I>>><i> >
</I>>><i> > How do you expect Mageia to verify each single package to make sure it
</I>>><i> > complies with the laws in ALL countries of the world?
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> So, because we can't comply with all laws in all coutnries, we should
</I>>><i> violate everyone we possibly can?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Because we can't be aware of all laws in all countries, we should do nothing ?
</I>><i> (after all that's the best way to break no law at all !)
</I>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> > Mageia should make sure that the packages comply with French law, but
</I>>><i> > that's it.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> If Mageia wants mirrors in countries with strong IP protection laws
</I>>><i> (including copyright, software patent) and anti-circumvention laws, then
</I>>><i> IMHO, there does need to be a split, so mirror maintainers can decide
</I>>><i> which risks they can accept.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> For example, in the DMCA case, I believe US mirrors hosting libdvdcss could
</I>>><i> be vulnerable.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> There are mirrors of plf in USA, there is at least one mirror of ArchLinux in
</I>><i> USA that provides libdvdcss, there is at least one mirror of Linux Mint in the
</I>><i> USA that provides libdvdcss, there is PCLinuxOS based in USA (Texas ?) that
</I>><i> provides libdvdcss
</I>><i>
</I>><i> VLC is available in USA to download (cnet.com) and VLC provides its own lib
</I>><i> for decoding (and coding) multimedia files (and from what i know, windows
</I>><i> binaries come with libdvdcss)
</I>><i>
</I>
There's a difference between "they can't be sued out of their homes"
and "they can be sued, just no one's done it yet". As with any legal
issues, it's always a CYA situation.
>><i>
</I>>><i> > You can still install Mageia and then remove the packages that are
</I>>><i> > problematic in your country, I very much doubt your laws are that
</I>>><i> > draconian that you can't even do that.
</I>>><i> > Mageia could include an option during install to exclude the well-known
</I>>><i> > problematic packages from installation to make this easier for people
</I>>><i> > that live in countries with restrictive laws.
</I>>><i> >
</I>>><i> > > When I install Mandriva Free for people, I will let them know where the
</I>>><i> > >
</I>>><i> > > PLF repos are and the files needed and they install these themselves.
</I>>><i> >
</I>>><i> > This is a major hassle for new/inexperienced users and IMHO should be
</I>>><i> > avoided.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Maybe it can be improved *to some extent*, by asking the user if they want
</I>>><i> to add additional repositories.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> We cannot ask users to add third-part repos. We have discussing about Mageia
</I>><i> repos, policies of third-part repos should not be in our discussion.
</I>><i>
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If we want to ask users to add 3rd party repos, then 3rd party repos
are already a part of this discussion.
--
Ahmad Samir
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