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HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20News%20about%20the%20forum&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinN4gaiO2xU4nRS%3D84xyq09BA705BqJ9iWqZDTf%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] News about the forum">rom1dep at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 00:31:48 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000791.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#792">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#792">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#792">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#792">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/4 Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>>: +><i> Hi all, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> After many opinions and suggestions exchanges, mails and thought we have +</I>><i> started to work on forum thing. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Considering our hope to grow we started to analyse the board engines +</I>><i> with a few axis of needs : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Work input data : +</I>><i> ---- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_%28PHP%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_%28PHP%29</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.big-boards.com/">http://www.big-boards.com/</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.forummatrix.org/compare/bbPress+FluxBB+FUDforum+Invision-Power-Board+MyBB+Phorum+phpBB+punBB+SMF+vBulletin">http://www.forummatrix.org/compare/bbPress+FluxBB+FUDforum+Invision-Power-Board+MyBB+Phorum+phpBB+punBB+SMF+vBulletin</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (In this last link boards versions are not perfectly up-to date :-( ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (and secunia resports about security alerts these last years) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Axes : +</I>><i> ---- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1) Ability to hold under heavy loads and store many posts +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => phpBB3, vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, MesDiscussions.net which +</I>><i> are the most represented on big boards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2) Moderation features +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, phpBB3, Simple Machines Forum 2, MyBB +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 3) User Features +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, phpBB3, Simple Machines Forum 2, +</I>><i> MyBB, FudForum +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 4) Security +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => phpBB3, FudForum, vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (phpBB2 was not even considered as an option from the beginning) +</I>><i> (MyBB was not very good) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 5) Look and ergonomy +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, phpBB3, Simple Machines Forum 2, +</I>><i> MyBB... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 5) Opensource (GPL or AGPL) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => phpBB3, FudForum, MyBB (GPLv3 \o/), punBB, phorum... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Method and results : +</I>><i> ---- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We excluded proprietary software (wether free or not)... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (Of course when it comes to usability and features vBulletin and +</I>><i> Invision Power Board are far ahead... the goal was to find something +</I>><i> hopefully able to compete with them) : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So exit: vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, Simple Machines Forum 2, +</I>><i> MesDiscussions.net... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Then we excluded forums with utf8 know issues like punBB... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Then we excluded forums with too well known security issues discovered +</I>><i> theses last years : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So exit: MyBB (Sad for french people but that's life) and phorum... +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4144/?task=statistics">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4144/?task=statistics</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4479/?task=statistics">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4479/?task=statistics</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> for Fudforum there were not much issues but one of them allowed system +</I>><i> access... we saved it because of people enthusiasm on the lists :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Then we Excluded forums with bad organization of +</I>><i> administration/moderation control panels and/or missing moderation features: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So exit: fudforum (which also would have been painful to relook) and +</I>><i> FluxBB also. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Nota: Fud has got the very cool mailing list bridge that we should set +</I>><i> up rather as soon as possible on the official board (but as already said +</I>><i> this feature still needs to be thought about, discussed by people and +</I>><i> heavily tested to avoid backfires... considering the current mailing +</I>><i> lists trafic and the obvious lack of love of some packagers for forums +</I>><i> this is not something to underestimate) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => The survivor is phpBB3 which is n°1 in big-boards.com and yet is far +</I>><i> from perfect imho. It will need some tweaking (that others would have +</I>><i> needed also : mainly about troll management, and also support +</I>><i> enhancements for example to mark support topics as [solved]) to match +</I>><i> more closely our needs... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So we started to work on phpBB3 with ash (thanks to ennael personal +</I>><i> funding)... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> One cool thing is that phpBB3 is published also through git so we are +</I>><i> able to track upstream changes and merge them quickly into our running +</I>><i> version without breaking local patches and enhancements. (The upgrade +</I>><i> via this method has been successfully tested a few hours ago) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At this precise minute we have a fresh new (skinned) up-to-date phpBB3 +</I>><i> running that still needs a few adds (language packs for example). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hope we'll be soon able to push DNS records so that everybody can get in +</I>><i> and give us feedback and improvement proposals. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Stay tuned, +</I>><i> Maât (a little bit tired... sorry my english is probably uglier than usual) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Nice, thanks for the good job :) ! +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000791.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#792">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#792">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#792">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#792">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |