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<B>rom1dep</B>
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<I>Mon Oct 4 00:31:48 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>2010/10/4 Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>>:
><i> Hi all,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> After many opinions and suggestions exchanges, mails and thought we have
</I>><i> started to work on forum thing.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Considering our hope to grow we started to analyse the board engines
</I>><i> with a few axis of needs :
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Work input data :
</I>><i> ----
</I>><i>
</I>><i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_%28PHP%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_%28PHP%29</A>
</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.big-boards.com/">http://www.big-boards.com/</A>
</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.forummatrix.org/compare/bbPress+FluxBB+FUDforum+Invision-Power-Board+MyBB+Phorum+phpBB+punBB+SMF+vBulletin">http://www.forummatrix.org/compare/bbPress+FluxBB+FUDforum+Invision-Power-Board+MyBB+Phorum+phpBB+punBB+SMF+vBulletin</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> (In this last link boards versions are not perfectly up-to date :-( )
</I>><i>
</I>><i> (and secunia resports about security alerts these last years)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Axes :
</I>><i> ----
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 1) Ability to hold under heavy loads and store many posts
</I>><i>
</I>><i> => phpBB3, vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, MesDiscussions.net which
</I>><i> are the most represented on big boards
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 2) Moderation features
</I>><i>
</I>><i> => vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, phpBB3, Simple Machines Forum 2, MyBB
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 3) User Features
</I>><i>
</I>><i> => vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, phpBB3, Simple Machines Forum 2,
</I>><i> MyBB, FudForum
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 4) Security
</I>><i>
</I>><i> => phpBB3, FudForum, vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> (phpBB2 was not even considered as an option from the beginning)
</I>><i> (MyBB was not very good)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 5) Look and ergonomy
</I>><i>
</I>><i> => vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, phpBB3, Simple Machines Forum 2,
</I>><i> MyBB...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> 5) Opensource (GPL or AGPL)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> => phpBB3, FudForum, MyBB (GPLv3 \o/), punBB, phorum...
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Method and results :
</I>><i> ----
</I>><i>
</I>><i> We excluded proprietary software (wether free or not)...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> (Of course when it comes to usability and features vBulletin and
</I>><i> Invision Power Board are far ahead... the goal was to find something
</I>><i> hopefully able to compete with them) :
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So exit: vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, Simple Machines Forum 2,
</I>><i> MesDiscussions.net...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Then we excluded forums with utf8 know issues like punBB...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Then we excluded forums with too well known security issues discovered
</I>><i> theses last years :
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So exit: MyBB (Sad for french people but that's life) and phorum...
</I>><i> <A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4144/?task=statistics">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4144/?task=statistics</A>
</I>><i> <A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4479/?task=statistics">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4479/?task=statistics</A>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> for Fudforum there were not much issues but one of them allowed system
</I>><i> access... we saved it because of people enthusiasm on the lists :)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Then we Excluded forums with bad organization of
</I>><i> administration/moderation control panels and/or missing moderation features:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So exit: fudforum (which also would have been painful to relook) and
</I>><i> FluxBB also.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Nota: Fud has got the very cool mailing list bridge that we should set
</I>><i> up rather as soon as possible on the official board (but as already said
</I>><i> this feature still needs to be thought about, discussed by people and
</I>><i> heavily tested to avoid backfires... considering the current mailing
</I>><i> lists trafic and the obvious lack of love of some packagers for forums
</I>><i> this is not something to underestimate)
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> => The survivor is phpBB3 which is n°1 in big-boards.com and yet is far
</I>><i> from perfect imho. It will need some tweaking (that others would have
</I>><i> needed also : mainly about troll management, and also support
</I>><i> enhancements for example to mark support topics as [solved]) to match
</I>><i> more closely our needs...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So we started to work on phpBB3 with ash (thanks to ennael personal
</I>><i> funding)...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> One cool thing is that phpBB3 is published also through git so we are
</I>><i> able to track upstream changes and merge them quickly into our running
</I>><i> version without breaking local patches and enhancements. (The upgrade
</I>><i> via this method has been successfully tested a few hours ago)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> At this precise minute we have a fresh new (skinned) up-to-date phpBB3
</I>><i> running that still needs a few adds (language packs for example).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Hope we'll be soon able to push DNS records so that everybody can get in
</I>><i> and give us feedback and improvement proposals.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Stay tuned,
</I>><i> Maât (a little bit tired... sorry my english is probably uglier than usual)
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>
Nice, thanks for the good job :) !
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