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It will need some tweaking (that others would have +needed also : mainly about troll management, and also support +enhancements for example to mark support topics as [solved]) to match +more closely our needs... + +So we started to work on phpBB3 with ash (thanks to ennael personal +funding)... + +One cool thing is that phpBB3 is published also through git so we are +able to track upstream changes and merge them quickly into our running +version without breaking local patches and enhancements. (The upgrade +via this method has been successfully tested a few hours ago) + +At this precise minute we have a fresh new (skinned) up-to-date phpBB3 +running that still needs a few adds (language packs for example). + +Hope we'll be soon able to push DNS records so that everybody can get in +and give us feedback and improvement proposals. + +Stay tuned, +Maât (a little bit tired... sorry my english is probably uglier than usual) + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000792.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#791">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#791">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#791">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#791">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git 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HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20News%20about%20the%20forum&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinN4gaiO2xU4nRS%3D84xyq09BA705BqJ9iWqZDTf%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] News about the forum">rom1dep at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 00:31:48 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000791.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#792">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#792">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#792">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#792">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/4 Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>>: +><i> Hi all, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> After many opinions and suggestions exchanges, mails and thought we have +</I>><i> started to work on forum thing. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Considering our hope to grow we started to analyse the board engines +</I>><i> with a few axis of needs : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Work input data : +</I>><i> ---- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_%28PHP%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software_%28PHP%29</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.big-boards.com/">http://www.big-boards.com/</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.forummatrix.org/compare/bbPress+FluxBB+FUDforum+Invision-Power-Board+MyBB+Phorum+phpBB+punBB+SMF+vBulletin">http://www.forummatrix.org/compare/bbPress+FluxBB+FUDforum+Invision-Power-Board+MyBB+Phorum+phpBB+punBB+SMF+vBulletin</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (In this last link boards versions are not perfectly up-to date :-( ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (and secunia resports about security alerts these last years) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Axes : +</I>><i> ---- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1) Ability to hold under heavy loads and store many posts +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => phpBB3, vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, MesDiscussions.net which +</I>><i> are the most represented on big boards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2) Moderation features +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, phpBB3, Simple Machines Forum 2, MyBB +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 3) User Features +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, phpBB3, Simple Machines Forum 2, +</I>><i> MyBB, FudForum +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 4) Security +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => phpBB3, FudForum, vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (phpBB2 was not even considered as an option from the beginning) +</I>><i> (MyBB was not very good) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 5) Look and ergonomy +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, phpBB3, Simple Machines Forum 2, +</I>><i> MyBB... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 5) Opensource (GPL or AGPL) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => phpBB3, FudForum, MyBB (GPLv3 \o/), punBB, phorum... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Method and results : +</I>><i> ---- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We excluded proprietary software (wether free or not)... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (Of course when it comes to usability and features vBulletin and +</I>><i> Invision Power Board are far ahead... the goal was to find something +</I>><i> hopefully able to compete with them) : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So exit: vBulletin, Invision Power Board 2, Simple Machines Forum 2, +</I>><i> MesDiscussions.net... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Then we excluded forums with utf8 know issues like punBB... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Then we excluded forums with too well known security issues discovered +</I>><i> theses last years : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So exit: MyBB (Sad for french people but that's life) and phorum... +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4144/?task=statistics">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4144/?task=statistics</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4479/?task=statistics">http://secunia.com/advisories/product/4479/?task=statistics</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> for Fudforum there were not much issues but one of them allowed system +</I>><i> access... we saved it because of people enthusiasm on the lists :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Then we Excluded forums with bad organization of +</I>><i> administration/moderation control panels and/or missing moderation features: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So exit: fudforum (which also would have been painful to relook) and +</I>><i> FluxBB also. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Nota: Fud has got the very cool mailing list bridge that we should set +</I>><i> up rather as soon as possible on the official board (but as already said +</I>><i> this feature still needs to be thought about, discussed by people and +</I>><i> heavily tested to avoid backfires... considering the current mailing +</I>><i> lists trafic and the obvious lack of love of some packagers for forums +</I>><i> this is not something to underestimate) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => The survivor is phpBB3 which is n°1 in big-boards.com and yet is far +</I>><i> from perfect imho. It will need some tweaking (that others would have +</I>><i> needed also : mainly about troll management, and also support +</I>><i> enhancements for example to mark support topics as [solved]) to match +</I>><i> more closely our needs... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So we started to work on phpBB3 with ash (thanks to ennael personal +</I>><i> funding)... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> One cool thing is that phpBB3 is published also through git so we are +</I>><i> able to track upstream changes and merge them quickly into our running +</I>><i> version without breaking local patches and enhancements. (The upgrade +</I>><i> via this method has been successfully tested a few hours ago) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At this precise minute we have a fresh new (skinned) up-to-date phpBB3 +</I>><i> running that still needs a few adds (language packs for example). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hope we'll be soon able to push DNS records so that everybody can get in +</I>><i> and give us feedback and improvement proposals. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Stay tuned, +</I>><i> Maât (a little bit tired... sorry my english is probably uglier than usual) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Nice, thanks for the good job :) ! +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000791.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#792">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#792">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#792">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#792">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000793.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000793.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d61918eb9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000793.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] News about the forum + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20News%20about%20the%20forum&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikz%2B-XfJw7ponq%3DCyKj59Y1_j5iNvHzKM9J44D%2B%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000792.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000795.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] News about the forum</H1> + <B>Frederic Janssens</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20News%20about%20the%20forum&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikz%2B-XfJw7ponq%3DCyKj59Y1_j5iNvHzKM9J44D%2B%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] News about the forum">fjanss at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 00:44:54 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000792.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000795.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#793">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#793">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#793">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#793">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 00:14, Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>> wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> Nota: Fud has got the very cool mailing list bridge that we should set +</I>><i> up rather as soon as possible on the official board (but as already said +</I>><i> this feature still needs to be thought about, discussed by people and +</I>><i> heavily tested to avoid backfires... considering the current mailing +</I>><i> lists trafic and the obvious lack of love of some packagers for forums +</I>><i> this is not something to underestimate) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> => The survivor is phpBB3 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As far as I know to have a mailing list bridge with phpBB3 one needs +</I>mail2forum 2.0 which is not finished. + +<A HREF="http://mail2forum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3574">http://mail2forum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3574</A> +Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 23:38 + says : + +Hi, the project is out of developers so you could say it is dead. +Latest m2f 2.0 alpha release works but it is a feature-lacking version. It +is being used by some ppl in production sites though, but this is not +recommended. +AFAIK there are NO mods out there that even get close to m2f 1.2 +functionality. Not even google/yahoo groups get close + +but the site also says : + +The m2f team are seeking new developers to join the project. We need +experienced PHP developers who would like to help with the v2.0 redesign, + +So : would there be volunteers to help m2f ? + + +-- + +Frederic +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101004/a3a62fec/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000792.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000795.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#793">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#793">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#793">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#793">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000794.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000794.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5e2e62675 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000794.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Happy Birthday Gene + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Happy%20Birthday%20Gene&In-Reply-To=%3C20101004075210.70c1a70e%40otfordduckscomputers.co.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000801.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000802.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Happy Birthday Gene</H1> + <B>Margot</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Happy%20Birthday%20Gene&In-Reply-To=%3C20101004075210.70c1a70e%40otfordduckscomputers.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Happy Birthday Gene">margot at otfordduckscomputers.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 08:52:10 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000801.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000802.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? 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It is being used by some ppl in production sites though, but +</I>><i> this is not recommended. +</I>><i> AFAIK there are NO mods out there that even get close to m2f 1.2 +</I>><i> functionality. Not even google/yahoo groups get close +</I>><i> +</I>><i> but the site also says : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The m2f team are seeking new developers to join the project. We need +</I>><i> experienced PHP developers who would like to help with the v2.0 redesign, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So : would there be volunteers to help m2f ? +</I>That could also be a from-scratch developement (and i don't dismiss the +option to take parts of fudforum gateway) + +Obviously if someone (generous, noble, brilliant and skilled with php +^^) volunteers to help on that part he/she will be most welcome :) + +All the best, +Maât + + + + + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000793.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000798.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#795">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#795">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#795">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#795">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000796.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000796.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..837ff94fb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000796.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] News about the forum + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20News%20about%20the%20forum&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinBBOcwZrLVQbH%3DreGZyshHWGunqaqku5rvEwL9%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000807.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000797.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] News about the forum</H1> + <B>Andres Kaaber</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20News%20about%20the%20forum&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinBBOcwZrLVQbH%3DreGZyshHWGunqaqku5rvEwL9%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] News about the forum">andres.kaaber at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 09:12:08 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000807.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000797.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#796">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#796">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#796">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#796">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/4 Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>>: +><i> Hi all, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> After many opinions and suggestions exchanges, mails and thought we have +</I>><i> started to work on forum thing. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Considering our hope to grow we started to analyse the board engines +</I>><i> with a few axis of needs : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Work input data : +</I>... + +Just a thought ... I really like KDEs forum (which is phpBB), +specially the Brainstoriming section where you can post new ides and +vote for them. + + +-- +A. Kaaber +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000807.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000797.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#796">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#796">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#796">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#796">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000797.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000797.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1a82cdf30 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000797.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] News about the forum + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20News%20about%20the%20forum&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin7kV_gAa3sBaXQQLKj4S8EUHO8S3puqFwz%3DJkz%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000796.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000801.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] News about the forum</H1> + <B>yvan munoz</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20News%20about%20the%20forum&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin7kV_gAa3sBaXQQLKj4S8EUHO8S3puqFwz%3DJkz%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] News about the forum">mr.yvan.munoz at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 12:18:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000796.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000801.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#797">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#797">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#797">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#797">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Good news, Maat. + +Unfortunatly we dont choose Citadel, which is completly different but need +many adjustement, homebrew, to have what we want. (citadel with ajax wui, +perl modules integration, bbs, workgroup rooms, ... ) Unfortunatly ... ;-) +:<i>p +</I> +So, stop completion on cooker spot, and link page to this mail, now. + +I stay tuned too +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101004/9dc0ef55/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000796.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000801.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#797">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#797">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#797">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#797">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000798.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000798.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a60d4fda9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000798.html @@ -0,0 +1,139 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] News about the forum + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20News%20about%20the%20forum&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimsKC2PyLA3KhR4fMUtTY3UDysi6dWQCWzzpig0%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000795.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000805.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] News about the forum</H1> + <B>Frederic Janssens</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20News%20about%20the%20forum&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimsKC2PyLA3KhR4fMUtTY3UDysi6dWQCWzzpig0%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] News about the forum">fjanss at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 12:53:01 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000795.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000805.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#798">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#798">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#798">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#798">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 09:08, Maât <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maat-ml at vilarem.net</A>> wrote: + +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We were prepared from start to have things to code for the forums. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's also why a true opensource engine was absolutely needed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That mean that we will not completely avoid to code some mods. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For security and troll control/containment/education we already knew +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For mailing-lists bidge the need is something that we did not anticipate +</I>><i> but this feature is not likely to change all that's been done : +</I>><i> -- this feature is cool and that would be stupid to reject it ihmo +</I>><i> -- but it's not a blocking one +</I>><i> -- we lived long without it (and we can live a little bit longer till +</I>><i> it's added) +</I>><i> +</I> +yes + +><i> +</I>><i> We are starting with a basic forum (with a slightly nicer skin than the +</I>><i> default +</I>><i> and a few mods and lang packs ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We have set up a low level infrastructure with git +</I> + +good , can you advertise it, so I can exercise whith git ? +I am all for git but have not used it much. + +and other tools to be +><i> able to hack +</I>><i> the missing features without without risking to break things or impair +</I>><i> user experience. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Once tested and approved feature will naturally end in the forum +</I>><i> (hopefully without issue at all). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The difference is only : we have one more feature to hack than that we +</I>><i> could anticipate :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Latest m2f 2.0 alpha release works but it is a feature-lacking +</I>><i> > version. It is being used by some ppl in production sites though, but +</I>><i> > this is not recommended. +</I>><i> > AFAIK there are NO mods out there that even get close to m2f 1.2 +</I>><i> > functionality. Not even google/yahoo groups get close +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > but the site also says : +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The m2f team are seeking new developers to join the project. We need +</I>><i> > experienced PHP developers who would like to help with the v2.0 redesign, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So : would there be volunteers to help m2f ? +</I>><i> That could also be a from-scratch developement (and i don't dismiss the +</I>><i> option to take parts of fudforum gateway) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Obviously if someone (generous, noble, brilliant and skilled with php +</I>><i> ^^) volunteers to help on that part he/she will be most welcome :) +</I>><i> +</I> +Unfortunately I am not a php programmer, but I will do what I can to help + +><i> +</I>><i> All the best, +</I>><i> Maât +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> + +-- + +Frederic +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101004/0dd97da1/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000795.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000805.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#798">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#798">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#798">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#798">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000801.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000801.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..12237ffdb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000801.html @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3C173.4ca957cd%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000797.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000794.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>Lawrence A Fossi</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3C173.4ca957cd%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">DarkFoss at comcast.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 06:27:59 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000797.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000794.html">[Mageia-dev] Happy Birthday Gene +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#801">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#801">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#801">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#801">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +For fast web browsing I don't mind using Chromium or even Iron..but I don't +trust either for my online banking purchasing etc. + +Firefox all the way Netcraft toolbar noscript adblock plus for all my +privacy sensitive needs.. Opera in a pinch. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000797.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000794.html">[Mageia-dev] Happy Birthday Gene +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#801">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#801">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#801">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#801">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000802.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000802.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..54fbde0d9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000802.html @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201010041409.32427.bgmilne%40multilinks.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000794.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000803.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>Buchan Milne</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201010041409.32427.bgmilne%40multilinks.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">bgmilne at multilinks.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 15:09:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000794.html">[Mageia-dev] Happy Birthday Gene +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#802">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#802">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#802">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#802">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Saturday, 2 October 2010 09:34:23 Olivier Méjean wrote: +><i> Le samedi 2 octobre 2010 02:09:47, nicolas vigier a écrit : +</I>><i> > This rolling release already exists, it's called the backport +</I>><i> > repository. But don't expect the same stability as the fixed release, +</I>><i> > you can't have both. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, i disagree for a good reason, in free software there is no (or mainly +</I>><i> no) separation between new versions of a software only correcting bugs, and +</I>><i> new versions of the same software adding new functionnalities. Let's take +</I>><i> an example, digikam. +</I>><i> Changes from digikam 1.3 to 1.4 are bugs correction affecting digikam 1.3 +</I>><i> and addition of new functionnalities. So what ? I need digikam more stable +</I>><i> so let's use the version that corrects bugs, so the latest, but it also +</I>><i> adds new functionnalities that may provide bugs ... (and in the case of +</I>><i> Digikam 1.4 it requires KDE 4.5, unfortunately there is no update to KDE +</I>><i> 4.5 for Mandriva 2010 !) what to do ? +</I> +urpmi --searchmedia Backports digikam + +(see <A HREF="http://lists.mandriva.com/changelog/2010-09/msg01089.php">http://lists.mandriva.com/changelog/2010-09/msg01089.php</A>) + +If you have no regressions, use it, and report back to maintainer, or +contributor who backported it, and motivate for promotion to update. + +If you have regressions, revert to version on main/release or main/updates, +report bugs upstream, await bugfixes from upstream. + +Unless you're actually running 2010.0, in which case you seem to not support +your entire wish by your actions .... + +><i> I also add that creating backports is creating new packages for older +</I>><i> versions that is more time to compilation, more time to ensure quality, +</I>><i> and so. In the whole i am not sure that it. +</I> +If you want rolling release, with all that brings (including sometimes, +untested packages, or packages that are not yet complete, but have to be +uploaded to allow completion of a difficult build dependency chain), run cooker. + +If you want stable release with updated packages, request (or contribute!) +backports. + +[...] + +><i> So one cannot say that stability is affected by backport when backported +</I>><i> packages are to correct existing bugs (but maybe adding new bugs due to new +</I>><i> functionnalities). Noboby would say that KDE 4.1 is more stable than KDE +</I>><i> 4.5 but there is no means to update KDE 4.x to KDE 4.x+1 at the moment, +</I>><i> and i consider that must be in update policies. With Mandriva 2010 i am +</I>><i> stick to 4.3.5 and i bet there will be no more evolution for KDE 4.3 +</I>><i> branch. +</I> +Wait, you're complaining that software in the distribution is too old, but +you're running the previous release of the distribution (2010.0 I guess, but +you aren't clear). + +Regards, +Buchan +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000794.html">[Mageia-dev] Happy Birthday Gene +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#802">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#802">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#802">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#802">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000803.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000803.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9808e84eb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000803.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTina%2B6CG4nLS3fOpTPk6Zt78Wcwx0hOb_QzNC7YJ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000802.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000804.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?</H1> + <B>Raphaël Jadot</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20will%20be%20the%20realese%20cycle%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTina%2B6CG4nLS3fOpTPk6Zt78Wcwx0hOb_QzNC7YJ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?">ashledombos at hodo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 15:34:50 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000802.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000804.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#803">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#803">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#803">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#803">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/4 Buchan Milne <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at multilinks.com</A>>: +><i> Wait, you're complaining that software in the distribution is too old, but +</I>><i> you're running the previous release of the distribution (2010.0 I guess, but +</I>><i> you aren't clear). +</I> +In fact the main problem is the "fear" of upgrade. If i understand +correctly what Olivier and all people wanting rolling mean, they fear +this "violent" upgrading, feeling it as a kind of lotery. Will it work +? Will it freeze ? Will there be some hidden bugs ? what will change ? +and if there is a bug, which of the 1497 packages upgraded is +responsible for it ? +Even though the upgrade have become more and more efficient along +times, there is a lot of sweat before, during and after an upgrade. +And sometimes, upgrading every 6 month a lot of machines can be quite +violent for a weak heart :) + +RJ +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000802.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000804.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#803">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#803">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#803">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#803">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000804.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000804.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5a985e4ce --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000804.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin9_M8v0_8DSx4Y-HLLL3i4xbvQccqbR6%3DLP%3D39%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000803.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000806.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin9_M8v0_8DSx4Y-HLLL3i4xbvQccqbR6%3DLP%3D39%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 15:41:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000806.html">[Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#804">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#804">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#804">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#804">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 3 October 2010 20:19, Richard Walker <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But are we always knowledgeable enough to be able to set up the system to +</I>><i> use our choice? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I confess to being a Mandriva Linux user for only 10 years but I have been +</I>><i> an Opera user (and purchaser) for a year or two before that. I ALWAYS have +</I>><i> difficulty when removing Firefox and replacing it with Opera as I can NEVER +</I>><i> find all of the nooks and crannies of the system and various software +</I>><i> packages which presume that Firefox must be available. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would be much happier to discover that a distribution had taken my +</I>><i> choices seriously enough to check with me during the install and then make +</I>><i> sure that my choice is properly and fully integrated. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Then perhaps we could highlight applications which expect no other browser +</I>><i> than Firefox and proceed to educate their authors/packagers as to the +</I>><i> importance of user choices. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Majority of users do not want choice. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OK, that may be true, but when one of that majority decides to broaden the +</I>><i> horizons of their browsing experience then will they magically be learned +</I>><i> enough to be able to fix all of the integration issues for themselves? I +</I>><i> suspect not. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> An install time selector screen and supporting scripts would be a very good +</I>><i> starting point for a "Change Default Browser" wizard, much as XFDrake tries +</I>><i> to hide the complexities of switching video drivers. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Richard +</I>><i> +</I> +The point is, such scripts break all the time. e.g. chromium-browser +has a "make chrome the default browser" button, the problem is, it +works only under GNOME, but doesn't work under KDE4 or XFCE. It's +using a variant of the xdg-utils scripts... + +xdg-utils is trying to do the huge job of working with all possible +desktop environments, this is, by its very nature, a hard thing to +accomplish. + +Firefox also has a "make firefox the default web browser", again it +works only with GTK/GConf based applications, but it doesn't change +KDE settings. + +If upstream can't accomplish this in their apps, how do you expect +downstream to do it? + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000803.html">[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000806.html">[Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#804">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#804">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#804">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#804">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000805.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000805.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f319a81b6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000805.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] News about the forum + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20News%20about%20the%20forum&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA9EC38.7030807%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000798.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000807.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] News about the forum</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20News%20about%20the%20forum&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA9EC38.7030807%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] News about the forum">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 17:01:12 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000798.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000807.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#805">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#805">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#805">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#805">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 04/10/2010 12:53, Frederic Janssens a écrit : +><i> good , can you advertise it, so I can exercise whith git ? +</I>><i> I am all for git but have not used it much. +</I>><i> +</I>We will do better than that : we will share our improvements with +upstream team so that new fresh versions of phpBB come with them +out-of-the-box :) + +So you'll just have to git clone <A HREF="http://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3.git">http://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3.git</A> + +Cheers, +Maât + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000798.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000807.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#805">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#805">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#805">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#805">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000806.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000806.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b5ad5d0c1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000806.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia? 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+</I>><i> > I am all for git but have not used it much. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> We will do better than that : we will share our improvements with +</I>><i> upstream team so that new fresh versions of phpBB come with them +</I>><i> out-of-the-box :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So you'll just have to git clone <A HREF="http://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3.git">http://github.com/phpbb/phpbb3.git</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> Maât +</I>><i> +</I>><i> excelent, thanks +</I> + + +-- + +Frederic +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101004/9b2547a0/attachment.html> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000805.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000796.html">[Mageia-dev] News about the forum +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#807">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#807">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#807">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#807">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000808.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000808.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9c29a1883 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000808.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia? 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or will we leave +for any +of these "alternative" compilations? 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Eventually, what is to support and +</I>><i> repair again (printerdrake?) if possible. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For what I know, there are many tools that work : RPMDrake and related, +</I>><i> Drakstats, Diskdrake, Harddrake, DrakX11, Drak3D, DrakUPS, DrakFirewall, +</I>><i> DrakGuard (wonderful this one) but may networking tools to share network +</I>><i> or use VPN, Samba, NFS, WebDav, and eventually along with Diskdrake, are +</I>><i> broken. Others such as Draksnapshot and DrakSamba (not sure if it works +</I>><i> or not) are a pain due to insufficient functionalities or +</I>><i> outdated/painful GUI. There is a nice theming functionality in the MCC +</I>><i> that is also probably broken or difficult to use, that could be restored +</I>><i> or explained. +</I>[...] + +i especially like net_applet because it works excellent with vpn, wireless, +etc... + +i love diskdrake (especially when installing), although i think that should +also work (even on install) with network stuff like NFS and others. + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000835.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000810.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#809">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#809">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#809">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#809">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000810.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000810.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..93e22310f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000810.html @@ -0,0 +1,103 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dx1qnP7cYKsvnyYS-3cuHQdQKH9%2BB%2BdD%3DYF6tU%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000809.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000811.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>yvan munoz</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dx1qnP7cYKsvnyYS-3cuHQdQKH9%2BB%2BdD%3DYF6tU%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">mr.yvan.munoz at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 21:33:47 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#810">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#810">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#810">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#810">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/10/4 Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> + +><i> +</I>><i> > We need to see what is still functional, what is broken (and so what is +</I>><i> > to repair), and what is to drop. Eventually, what is to support and +</I>><i> > repair again (printerdrake?) if possible. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > For what I know, there are many tools that work : RPMDrake and related, +</I>><i> > Drakstats, Diskdrake, Harddrake, DrakX11, Drak3D, DrakUPS, DrakFirewall, +</I>><i> > DrakGuard (wonderful this one) but may networking tools to share network +</I>><i> > or use VPN, Samba, NFS, WebDav, and eventually along with Diskdrake, are +</I>><i> > broken. Others such as Draksnapshot and DrakSamba (not sure if it works +</I>><i> > or not) are a pain due to insufficient functionalities or +</I>><i> > outdated/painful GUI. There is a nice theming functionality in the MCC +</I>><i> > that is also probably broken or difficult to use, that could be restored +</I>><i> > or explained. +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Drak3d : completly unnecessary today for Compiz (and Metisse seems to be +</I>on-stop actually, so no reason to maintain especially for it now) +DrakDisk : partitionmanager seems to be not ready, not complete actually. +gparted and Palimpsest are excellent (especially palimpsest) but DiskDrak +stay the g best tool i know today +DrakGuard : Absolutly wonderfull, a real "plus-value". +Drakups : unnecessary today ? +Drakfirewall : OK, but maybe integer outpout controll too is a good idea ? +(and provide effortless arptables and ebtables looks ambitious ?) +DrakSambaShare : initially a community addon from Mr Ginies (it think?) : +really excellent tool too. But maybe unnecessary today (as draknfs) because +desktop integration (and servers have admin) +Drakbackup and Draksnapshoot : please remove +DrakFax : unnecessary today (desktop integration) +Drakmenustyle : deprecated +Drackoo : unnecessary today (libreoffice integration) +Drakpxelinux : too strict on paths to be really used by someone who knows +nothing about pxe and mdk/mdv/mga. Please remove. +Drakvirt : superseeded by Redhat tool. +Draknet* : please keep it. Best tool today (better than networkmanager for +many thinks, and conman seems to be not finished today.) Ambitious to have a +knetwaorkmanager port for draknet* ? + +Mes two cents. +Regards. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20101004/56e8d4ae/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#810">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#810">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#810">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#810">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000811.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000811.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8eec37581 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000811.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%09Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3C1f3.4caa2db4%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000810.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000813.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Tux99</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%09Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3C1f3.4caa2db4%40mageia.linuxtech.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">tux99-mga at uridium.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 21:40:39 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000810.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#811">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#811">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#811">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#811">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +Quote: yvan munoz wrote on Mon, 04 October 2010 21:33 + +><i> Drak3d : completly unnecessary today for Compiz (and Metisse seems to +</I>><i> be +</I>><i> on-stop actually, so no reason to maintain especially for it now) +</I>><i> DrakDisk : partitionmanager seems to be not ready, not complete +</I>><i> actually. +</I>><i> gparted and Palimpsest are excellent (especially palimpsest) but +</I>><i> DiskDrak +</I>><i> stay the g best tool i know today +</I>><i> DrakGuard : Absolutly wonderfull, a real "plus-value". +</I>><i> Drakups : unnecessary today ? +</I>><i> Drakfirewall : OK, but maybe integer outpout controll too is a good +</I>><i> idea ? +</I>><i> (and provide effortless arptables and ebtables looks ambitious ?) +</I>><i> DrakSambaShare : initially a community addon from Mr Ginies (it think?) +</I>><i> : +</I>><i> really excellent tool too. But maybe unnecessary today (as draknfs) +</I>><i> because +</I>><i> desktop integration (and servers have admin) +</I>><i> Drakbackup and Draksnapshoot : please remove +</I>><i> DrakFax : unnecessary today (desktop integration) +</I>><i> Drakmenustyle : deprecated +</I>><i> Drackoo : unnecessary today (libreoffice integration) +</I>><i> Drakpxelinux : too strict on paths to be really used by someone who +</I>><i> knows +</I>><i> nothing about pxe and mdk/mdv/mga. Please remove. +</I>><i> Drakvirt : superseeded by Redhat tool. +</I>><i> Draknet* : please keep it. Best tool today (better than networkmanager +</I>><i> for +</I>><i> many thinks, and conman seems to be not finished today.) Ambitious to +</I>><i> have a +</I>><i> knetwaorkmanager port for draknet* ? +</I> +Well, luckily it's not your decision... + +I use several of those tools you think can be removed. + +We should improve and extend the draktools not cut them down! + +I would really like a draklirc to configure IR remotes, since that's a +major pain to do manually (especially the first time), I even was thinking +of writing it myself, but never found the time for it so far. + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000810.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#811">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#811">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#811">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#811">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000812.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000812.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d29d8b710 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000812.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Can%20Firefox%20be%20included%20in%20Mageia%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimf-oc57Knm--FdEVbaiwNS380bAV-pbVkj_d93%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000814.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia?</H1> + <B>Pascal Terjan</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Can%20Firefox%20be%20included%20in%20Mageia%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimf-oc57Knm--FdEVbaiwNS380bAV-pbVkj_d93%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia?">pterjan at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 21:58:16 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#812">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#812">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#812">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#812">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/30 André Machado <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As a note, I spoke with Pascal Chevrel today from Mozilla Europe. He +</I>>><i> told me that Debian was going back to use Firefox. Legal issues are +</I>>><i> solved +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> WOW! STOP THE MACHINES!!! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Have you more details? :D +</I> +<A HREF="http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933">http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933</A> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#812">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#812">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#812">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#812">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000813.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000813.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c92a14854 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000813.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%09Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3C201010042338.34617.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000811.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000814.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%09Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3C201010042338.34617.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 23:38:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#813">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#813">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#813">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#813">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op maandag 04 oktober 2010 21:40:39 schreef Tux99: +><i> Quote: yvan munoz wrote on Mon, 04 October 2010 21:33 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Drak3d : completly unnecessary today for Compiz (and Metisse seems to +</I>><i> > be +</I>><i> > on-stop actually, so no reason to maintain especially for it now) +</I>><i> > DrakDisk : partitionmanager seems to be not ready, not complete +</I>><i> > actually. +</I>><i> > gparted and Palimpsest are excellent (especially palimpsest) but +</I>><i> > DiskDrak +</I>><i> > stay the g best tool i know today +</I>><i> > DrakGuard : Absolutly wonderfull, a real "plus-value". +</I>><i> > Drakups : unnecessary today ? +</I>><i> > Drakfirewall : OK, but maybe integer outpout controll too is a good +</I>><i> > idea ? +</I>><i> > (and provide effortless arptables and ebtables looks ambitious ?) +</I>><i> > DrakSambaShare : initially a community addon from Mr Ginies (it think?) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > really excellent tool too. But maybe unnecessary today (as draknfs) +</I>><i> > because +</I>><i> > desktop integration (and servers have admin) +</I>><i> > Drakbackup and Draksnapshoot : please remove +</I>><i> > DrakFax : unnecessary today (desktop integration) +</I>><i> > Drakmenustyle : deprecated +</I>><i> > Drackoo : unnecessary today (libreoffice integration) +</I>><i> > Drakpxelinux : too strict on paths to be really used by someone who +</I>><i> > knows +</I>><i> > nothing about pxe and mdk/mdv/mga. Please remove. +</I>><i> > Drakvirt : superseeded by Redhat tool. +</I>><i> > Draknet* : please keep it. Best tool today (better than networkmanager +</I>><i> > for +</I>><i> > many thinks, and conman seems to be not finished today.) Ambitious to +</I>><i> > have a +</I>><i> > knetwaorkmanager port for draknet* ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, luckily it's not your decision... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I use several of those tools you think can be removed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We should improve and extend the draktools not cut them down! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would really like a draklirc to configure IR remotes, since that's a +</I>><i> major pain to do manually (especially the first time), I even was thinking +</I>><i> of writing it myself, but never found the time for it so far. +</I> + +that is a good idea! + +also: +* drakups: for serial upses, a must! +* drakpxelinux: a must for people who do this, but it does need to be +redesigned, because PXE installs don't even work anymore out of the box; the +whole PXE stuff needs to be adjusted, imo. +* i think people still need drakfax, i heard someone talking about that +* never used drakvirt, but i hate redhat's tool. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#813">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#813">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#813">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#813">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000814.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000814.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a0f966837 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000814.html @@ -0,0 +1,125 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinR0YYEa6muNZT%3D3Qec%2Biap%3DTQtGppDH6vo8rs1%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000813.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000812.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github</H1> + <B>Robert Xu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20About%20Mandriva%20tools%20future%20%3A%0A%20Host%20Mandriva%20tools%20on%20github&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinR0YYEa6muNZT%3D3Qec%2Biap%3DTQtGppDH6vo8rs1%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github">robxu9 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 23:53:02 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000812.html">[Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#814">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#814">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#814">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#814">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 17:38, Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Op maandag 04 oktober 2010 21:40:39 schreef Tux99: +</I>>><i> Quote: yvan munoz wrote on Mon, 04 October 2010 21:33 +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> > Drak3d : completly unnecessary today for Compiz (and Metisse seems to +</I>>><i> > be +</I>>><i> > on-stop actually, so no reason to maintain especially for it now) +</I>>><i> > DrakDisk : partitionmanager seems to be not ready, not complete +</I>>><i> > actually. +</I>>><i> > gparted and Palimpsest are excellent (especially palimpsest) but +</I>>><i> > DiskDrak +</I>>><i> > stay the g best tool i know today +</I>>><i> > DrakGuard : Absolutly wonderfull, a real "plus-value". +</I>>><i> > Drakups : unnecessary today ? +</I>>><i> > Drakfirewall : OK, but maybe integer outpout controll too is a good +</I>>><i> > idea ? +</I>>><i> > (and provide effortless arptables and ebtables looks ambitious ?) +</I>>><i> > DrakSambaShare : initially a community addon from Mr Ginies (it think?) +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > really excellent tool too. But maybe unnecessary today (as draknfs) +</I>>><i> > because +</I>>><i> > desktop integration (and servers have admin) +</I>>><i> > Drakbackup and Draksnapshoot : please remove +</I>>><i> > DrakFax :  unnecessary today (desktop integration) +</I>>><i> > Drakmenustyle : deprecated +</I>>><i> > Drackoo : unnecessary today (libreoffice integration) +</I>>><i> > Drakpxelinux : too strict on paths to be really used by someone who +</I>>><i> > knows +</I>>><i> > nothing about pxe and mdk/mdv/mga. Please remove. +</I>>><i> > Drakvirt : superseeded by Redhat tool. +</I>>><i> > Draknet* : please keep it. Best tool today (better than networkmanager +</I>>><i> > for +</I>>><i> > many thinks, and conman seems to be not finished today.) Ambitious to +</I>>><i> > have a +</I>>><i> > knetwaorkmanager port for draknet* ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Well, luckily it's not your decision... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I use several of those tools you think can be removed. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> We should improve and extend the draktools not cut them down! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I would really like a draklirc to configure IR remotes, since that's a +</I>>><i> major pain to do manually (especially the first time), I even was thinking +</I>>><i> of writing it myself, but never found the time for it so far. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> that is a good idea! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> also: +</I>><i> * drakups: for serial upses, a must! +</I>><i> * drakpxelinux: a must for people who do this, but it does need to be +</I>><i> redesigned, because PXE installs don't even work anymore out of the box; the +</I>><i> whole PXE stuff needs to be adjusted, imo. +</I>><i> * i think people still need drakfax, i heard someone talking about that +</I>><i> * never used drakvirt, but i hate redhat's tool. +</I>><i> +</I> +would it be possible to move drakxtools slowly away from perl gtk? +Or at least make perl gtk better (and provide a perlQt implementation?) + +Because as far as I'm concerned, if any of these GUIs freeze up, it's +automatically sucky. +Which most of them will do (ex rpmdrake) +(Even though most aren't, but this affects usability very much) + + +-- +later, Robert Xu +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000812.html">[Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#814">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#814">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#814">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#814">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000835.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000835.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bab1c0756 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/000835.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3Ci8f41m%24304%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="000808.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="000809.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers</H1> + <B>Sinner from the Prairy</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Talk%20of%20Browsers&In-Reply-To=%3Ci8f41m%24304%242%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers">sinnerbofh at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Oct 4 19:41:15 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000808.html">[Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#835">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#835">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#835">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#835">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath wrote: + +><i> 2010/10/2 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So I say no to this idea. Asking useless questions just add burden to +</I>>><i> the user. People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, +</I>>><i> those that don't do not care enough. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Reasonable. Can also be applied to other such things like OOo (LO) vs +</I>><i> koffice, kmail vs TB or other such big applications with many +</I>><i> alternatives. +</I> ++1 + +My thoughts exactly. + + +Salut, +Sinner + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000808.html">[Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#835">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#835">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#835">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#835">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..105fbc964 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20101004/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,162 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 4 October 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>4 October 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Oct 4 00:14:13 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Oct 4 23:53:02 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 23<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="000806.html">[Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia? 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+</A><A NAME="808"> </A> +<I>Adrien Touminet +</I> + +<!--0 01286214075- --> +<LI><A HREF="000835.html">[Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers +</A><A NAME="835"> </A> +<I>Sinner from the Prairy +</I> + +<!--0 01286216633- --> +<LI><A HREF="000809.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="809"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01286216633-01286220827- --> +<LI><A HREF="000810.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="810"> </A> +<I>yvan munoz +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01286216633-01286220827-01286221239- --> +<LI><A HREF="000811.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="811"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01286216633-01286220827-01286221239-01286228314- --> +<LI><A HREF="000813.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="813"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<!--3 01286216633-01286220827-01286221239-01286228314-01286229182- --> +<LI><A HREF="000814.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github +</A><A NAME="814"> </A> +<I>Robert Xu +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01286222296- --> +<LI><A HREF="000812.html">[Mageia-dev] Can Firefox be included in Mageia? +</A><A NAME="812"> </A> +<I>Pascal Terjan +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Oct 4 23:53:02 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Oct 5 14:05:12 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman 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