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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+ <I>Tue Oct 5 10:38:13 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 02:29, Christopher Swift
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">christopher.swift at linux.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Ar Llu, 2010-10-04 am 12:35 +0100, ysgrifennodd Romain d'Alverny:
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's see other projects:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>&#160;For example #ubuntu-es isn't aimed at Spain but rather spanish speakers
+</I>&gt;<i> who use Ubuntu.
+</I>
+So again, no consistency (that I don't blame! it was just to know if
+other project used a consistent scheme or not). According to above
+Ubuntu wiki page, #ubuntu-es ought to be for the Spain country.
+
+&gt;<i> It should also be noted that Ubuntu uses the ccTLD to set the name of
+</I>&gt;<i> the channel, so for example the channel for United Kingdom of Great
+</I>&gt;<i> Britain and Northern Ireland would indeed be #ubuntu-uk as it is. &#160;The
+</I>&gt;<i> ccTLD for the UK is indeed .uk whereas Ukraine's ccTLD is .ua.
+</I>
+ccTLD is an option but again, it's using a location-based hint for
+channels than a language-based (which is our main point from day one,
+having location-based as exceptions).
+
+&gt;<i>&#160;By extending the shortened name of -uk
+</I>&gt;<i> to -unitedkingdom you are making it less likely for people to find the
+</I>&gt;<i> channel. &#160;-uk as a suffix is an already declared identifier for the UK
+</I>&gt;<i> in both domain names and open source IRC projects.
+</I>
+True.
+
+&gt;<i> Doesn't it make more sense to comply with the already existing standards
+</I>&gt;<i> of the Ubuntu and Fedora projects in regards to naming IRC channels?
+</I>
+Sure. Just that, it's not a strict, consistent rule regarding what
+suffix to use for what purpose (be it language-based, location-based,
+using language or country or ccTLD code); it's more like a &quot;first come
+first served&quot; usage. Which I don't blame; it's something else, has the
+great merit to simplify the setup.
+
+We can go for that, it will be easier for everyone and stop the fuss,
+provided some naming guidance rules:
+ - use the suffix you want in the #mageia-{suffix} format (reserved
+are -council, -board and other roles/teams related ones - ask in case
+of doubt); you may actually use a totally different name for your
+channel, won't prevent from being referenced;
+ - first come, first served,
+ - contact the IRC Mageia team (email/irc contact to define) to get it
+listed with all Mageia-related channels (we ought to dedicate a page
+for that on the wiki - that will be the main entry point anyway -
+<A HREF="http://irc.mozilla.org/">http://irc.mozilla.org/</A> looks like a good template).
+
+So, no consistency planned for language/location for channels, let's
+grow this. See <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc</A> (will re-route
+web site list to this one).
+
+Here, #mageia-uk first come for United Kingdom, first served. For
+Ukraine/ukrainian-speaking, -ukr or -ua or something else?
+
+Romain
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