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<H1>[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board</H1>
<B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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<I>Tue Oct 5 10:38:13 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 02:29, Christopher Swift
<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">christopher.swift at linux.com</A>> wrote:
><i> Ar Llu, 2010-10-04 am 12:35 +0100, ysgrifennodd Romain d'Alverny:
</I>><i> Let's see other projects:
</I>>><i> [...]
</I>><i> For example #ubuntu-es isn't aimed at Spain but rather spanish speakers
</I>><i> who use Ubuntu.
</I>
So again, no consistency (that I don't blame! it was just to know if
other project used a consistent scheme or not). According to above
Ubuntu wiki page, #ubuntu-es ought to be for the Spain country.
><i> It should also be noted that Ubuntu uses the ccTLD to set the name of
</I>><i> the channel, so for example the channel for United Kingdom of Great
</I>><i> Britain and Northern Ireland would indeed be #ubuntu-uk as it is.  The
</I>><i> ccTLD for the UK is indeed .uk whereas Ukraine's ccTLD is .ua.
</I>
ccTLD is an option but again, it's using a location-based hint for
channels than a language-based (which is our main point from day one,
having location-based as exceptions).
><i> By extending the shortened name of -uk
</I>><i> to -unitedkingdom you are making it less likely for people to find the
</I>><i> channel.  -uk as a suffix is an already declared identifier for the UK
</I>><i> in both domain names and open source IRC projects.
</I>
True.
><i> Doesn't it make more sense to comply with the already existing standards
</I>><i> of the Ubuntu and Fedora projects in regards to naming IRC channels?
</I>
Sure. Just that, it's not a strict, consistent rule regarding what
suffix to use for what purpose (be it language-based, location-based,
using language or country or ccTLD code); it's more like a "first come
first served" usage. Which I don't blame; it's something else, has the
great merit to simplify the setup.
We can go for that, it will be easier for everyone and stop the fuss,
provided some naming guidance rules:
- use the suffix you want in the #mageia-{suffix} format (reserved
are -council, -board and other roles/teams related ones - ask in case
of doubt); you may actually use a totally different name for your
channel, won't prevent from being referenced;
- first come, first served,
- contact the IRC Mageia team (email/irc contact to define) to get it
listed with all Mageia-related channels (we ought to dedicate a page
for that on the wiki - that will be the main entry point anyway -
<A HREF="http://irc.mozilla.org/">http://irc.mozilla.org/</A> looks like a good template).
So, no consistency planned for language/location for channels, let's
grow this. See <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc</A> (will re-route
web site list to this one).
Here, #mageia-uk first come for United Kingdom, first served. For
Ukraine/ukrainian-speaking, -ukr or -ua or something else?
Romain
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