[Mageia-discuss] IRC community channels - need a ruling from the board

Tue Oct 5 10:38:13 CEST 2010

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 02:29, Christopher Swift
+<christopher.swift at linux.com> wrote:
+> Ar Llu, 2010-10-04 am 12:35 +0100, ysgrifennodd Romain d'Alverny:
+> Let's see other projects:
+>> [...]
+> For example #ubuntu-es isn't aimed at Spain but rather spanish speakers
+> who use Ubuntu.
+
+So again, no consistency (that I don't blame! it was just to know if
+other project used a consistent scheme or not). According to above
+Ubuntu wiki page, #ubuntu-es ought to be for the Spain country.
+
+> It should also be noted that Ubuntu uses the ccTLD to set the name of
+> the channel, so for example the channel for United Kingdom of Great
+> Britain and Northern Ireland would indeed be #ubuntu-uk as it is.  The
+> ccTLD for the UK is indeed .uk whereas Ukraine's ccTLD is .ua.
+
+ccTLD is an option but again, it's using a location-based hint for
+channels than a language-based (which is our main point from day one,
+having location-based as exceptions).
+
+> By extending the shortened name of -uk
+> to -unitedkingdom you are making it less likely for people to find the
+> channel.  -uk as a suffix is an already declared identifier for the UK
+> in both domain names and open source IRC projects.
+
+True.
+
+> Doesn't it make more sense to comply with the already existing standards
+> of the Ubuntu and Fedora projects in regards to naming IRC channels?
+
+Sure. Just that, it's not a strict, consistent rule regarding what
+suffix to use for what purpose (be it language-based, location-based,
+using language or country or ccTLD code); it's more like a "first come
+first served" usage. Which I don't blame; it's something else, has the
+great merit to simplify the setup.
+
+We can go for that, it will be easier for everyone and stop the fuss,
+provided some naming guidance rules:
+ - use the suffix you want in the #mageia-{suffix} format (reserved
+are -council, -board and other roles/teams related ones - ask in case
+of doubt); you may actually use a totally different name for your
+channel, won't prevent from being referenced;
+ - first come, first served,
+ - contact the IRC Mageia team (email/irc contact to define) to get it
+listed with all Mageia-related channels (we ought to dedicate a page
+for that on the wiki - that will be the main entry point anyway -
+http://irc.mozilla.org/ looks like a good template).
+
+So, no consistency planned for language/location for channels, let's
+grow this. See http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=irc (will re-route
+web site list to this one).
+
+Here, #mageia-uk first come for United Kingdom, first served. For
+Ukraine/ukrainian-speaking, -ukr or -ua or something else?
+
+Romain
+