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| author | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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| committer | Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> | 2013-04-14 13:46:12 +0000 |
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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20120307/030f9e1f/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20120307/030f9e1f/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d42f2004d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20120307/030f9e1f/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Colin Guthrie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mageia@colin.guthr.ie">mageia@colin.guthr.ie</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +'Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 02/03/12 19:43 did gyre and gimble:<br> +<div><div class="h5">> On 02.03.2012 19:55, Thomas Backlund wrote:<br> +>> 02.03.2012 20:49, Kamil Rytarowski skrev:<br> +>>> Hello!<br> +>>><br> +>>> Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish<br> +>>> community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people can't<br> +>>> switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.<br> +>>><br> +>> NO.<br> +>><br> +>> As stated a million times before...<br> +>><br> +>> qt3 is obsolete<br> +>><br> +>> The only reason we have some qt3 runtime support is because of LSB<br> +> Sad..<br> +>><br> +>> Any stuff needed should be ported to qt4.<br> +> Actually this is not true. One of our Mageia users (who introduced<br> +> Mageia on a dozen of machines) can't switch the next dozen because of<br> +> lacking Rivendell Radio Broadcasting software (<br> +> <a href="http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml</a> ), the other can't use his<br> +> favourite qt3 apps, and a few others (including RH employee) are forced<br> +> to use Fedora or KDE4.<br> +><br> +> If the "obsolete" part is the only reason, then it's not too strong..<br> +> the package is maintained and there is *upstream*.<br> +><br> +> As of the 3.5.13 release the Trinity project has taken over maintenance<br> +> of Qt3.<br> +><br> +> This means we are the new "upstream" location for up-to-date Qt3<br> +> source code.<br> +> Since there have been no updates or stable releases from<br> +> Nokia/Trolltech in many years and there are literally hundreds patches<br> +> floating around, there was a significant need for a central location.<br> +> By maintaining Qt3 it will allow us to continue to improve Qt3<br> +> outside the scope of Trinity. It will also provide a central location<br> +> for Linux distributions to build packages from, and contributers to<br> +> submit code to.<br> +> For obvious reasons any Qt3 version released by this project is<br> +> licensed under the GPL only; holders of Trolltech Qt licenses may not<br> +> use these versions in their proprietary projects.<br> +><br> +> <a href="http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3" target="_blank">http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3</a><br> +><br> +><br> +> Trinity is currently packaged for Mandriva, OpenSUSE and available for<br> +> the main distros.<br> +<br> +</div></div>I am thoroughly unimpressed with this trinity stuff. Open Source<br> +software gives people freedoms and that's good, but it doesn't stop them<br> +making bad decisions.<br> +<br> +Times move on. Why take a legacy bit of software and keep on developing<br> +it? If they *really* cared so much for the KDE3 interface they would<br> +port it to qt4 or even qt5, not limp on with outdated base layers.<br></blockquote><div> </div><div>Funny you say that. I believe they tried with a pkg called qtinterface. Don't quote me, but the gist of it was that qt4 has performance issues in many areas.<br> +<br>It's all POV... I wouldn't call kde4 the panacea of DEs either... so in a sense I agree with you in that it doesn't stop a group of ppl from making a long set of bad decisions....<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> + +<br> +<br> +Col<br> +<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br> +<br> +<br> +--<br> +<br> +Colin Guthrie<br> +colin(at)<a href="http://mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="http://colin.guthr.ie/" target="_blank">http://colin.guthr.ie/</a><br> +<br> +Day Job:<br> + Tribalogic Limited <a href="http://www.tribalogic.net/" target="_blank">http://www.tribalogic.net/</a><br> +Open Source:<br> + Mageia Contributor <a href="http://www.mageia.org/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/</a><br> + PulseAudio Hacker <a href="http://www.pulseaudio.org/" target="_blank">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</a><br> + Trac Hacker <a href="http://trac.edgewall.org/" target="_blank">http://trac.edgewall.org/</a><br> +</font></span></blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20120307/030f9e1f/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20120307/030f9e1f/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d42f2004d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20120307/030f9e1f/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Colin Guthrie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mageia@colin.guthr.ie">mageia@colin.guthr.ie</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +'Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 02/03/12 19:43 did gyre and gimble:<br> +<div><div class="h5">> On 02.03.2012 19:55, Thomas Backlund wrote:<br> +>> 02.03.2012 20:49, Kamil Rytarowski skrev:<br> +>>> Hello!<br> +>>><br> +>>> Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish<br> +>>> community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people can't<br> +>>> switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.<br> +>>><br> +>> NO.<br> +>><br> +>> As stated a million times before...<br> +>><br> +>> qt3 is obsolete<br> +>><br> +>> The only reason we have some qt3 runtime support is because of LSB<br> +> Sad..<br> +>><br> +>> Any stuff needed should be ported to qt4.<br> +> Actually this is not true. One of our Mageia users (who introduced<br> +> Mageia on a dozen of machines) can't switch the next dozen because of<br> +> lacking Rivendell Radio Broadcasting software (<br> +> <a href="http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml</a> ), the other can't use his<br> +> favourite qt3 apps, and a few others (including RH employee) are forced<br> +> to use Fedora or KDE4.<br> +><br> +> If the "obsolete" part is the only reason, then it's not too strong..<br> +> the package is maintained and there is *upstream*.<br> +><br> +> As of the 3.5.13 release the Trinity project has taken over maintenance<br> +> of Qt3.<br> +><br> +> This means we are the new "upstream" location for up-to-date Qt3<br> +> source code.<br> +> Since there have been no updates or stable releases from<br> +> Nokia/Trolltech in many years and there are literally hundreds patches<br> +> floating around, there was a significant need for a central location.<br> +> By maintaining Qt3 it will allow us to continue to improve Qt3<br> +> outside the scope of Trinity. It will also provide a central location<br> +> for Linux distributions to build packages from, and contributers to<br> +> submit code to.<br> +> For obvious reasons any Qt3 version released by this project is<br> +> licensed under the GPL only; holders of Trolltech Qt licenses may not<br> +> use these versions in their proprietary projects.<br> +><br> +> <a href="http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3" target="_blank">http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3</a><br> +><br> +><br> +> Trinity is currently packaged for Mandriva, OpenSUSE and available for<br> +> the main distros.<br> +<br> +</div></div>I am thoroughly unimpressed with this trinity stuff. Open Source<br> +software gives people freedoms and that's good, but it doesn't stop them<br> +making bad decisions.<br> +<br> +Times move on. Why take a legacy bit of software and keep on developing<br> +it? If they *really* cared so much for the KDE3 interface they would<br> +port it to qt4 or even qt5, not limp on with outdated base layers.<br></blockquote><div> </div><div>Funny you say that. I believe they tried with a pkg called qtinterface. Don't quote me, but the gist of it was that qt4 has performance issues in many areas.<br> +<br>It's all POV... I wouldn't call kde4 the panacea of DEs either... so in a sense I agree with you in that it doesn't stop a group of ppl from making a long set of bad decisions....<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> + +<br> +<br> +Col<br> +<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br> +<br> +<br> +--<br> +<br> +Colin Guthrie<br> +colin(at)<a href="http://mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="http://colin.guthr.ie/" target="_blank">http://colin.guthr.ie/</a><br> +<br> +Day Job:<br> + Tribalogic Limited <a href="http://www.tribalogic.net/" target="_blank">http://www.tribalogic.net/</a><br> +Open Source:<br> + Mageia Contributor <a href="http://www.mageia.org/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/</a><br> + PulseAudio Hacker <a href="http://www.pulseaudio.org/" target="_blank">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</a><br> + Trac Hacker <a href="http://trac.edgewall.org/" 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