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On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Colin Guthrie <mageia@colin.guthr.ie> wrote:
+'Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 02/03/12 19:43 did gyre and gimble:
+
> On 02.03.2012 19:55, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+>> 02.03.2012 20:49, Kamil Rytarowski skrev:
+>>> Hello!
+>>>
+>>> Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish
+>>> community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people can't
+>>> switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.
+>>>
+>> NO.
+>>
+>> As stated a million times before...
+>>
+>> qt3 is obsolete
+>>
+>> The only reason we have some qt3 runtime support is because of LSB
+> Sad..
+>>
+>> Any stuff needed should be ported to qt4.
+> Actually this is not true. One of our Mageia users (who introduced
+> Mageia on a dozen of machines) can't switch the next dozen because of
+> lacking Rivendell Radio Broadcasting software (
+> http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml ), the other can't use his
+> favourite qt3 apps, and a few others (including RH employee) are forced
+> to use Fedora or KDE4.
+>
+> If the "obsolete" part is the only reason, then it's not too strong..
+> the package is maintained and there is *upstream*.
+>
+> As of the 3.5.13 release the Trinity project has taken over maintenance
+> of Qt3.
+>
+>     This means we are the new "upstream" location for up-to-date Qt3
+> source code.
+>     Since there have been no updates or stable releases from
+> Nokia/Trolltech in many years and there are literally hundreds patches
+> floating around, there was a significant need for a central location.
+>     By maintaining Qt3 it will allow us to continue to improve Qt3
+> outside the scope of Trinity. It will also provide a central location
+> for Linux distributions to build packages from, and contributers to
+> submit code to.
+>     For obvious reasons any Qt3 version released by this project is
+> licensed under the GPL only; holders of Trolltech Qt licenses may not
+> use these versions in their proprietary projects.
+>
+> http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3
+>
+>
+> Trinity is currently packaged for Mandriva, OpenSUSE and available for
+> the main distros.
+
+
I am thoroughly unimpressed with this trinity stuff. Open Source
+software gives people freedoms and that's good, but it doesn't stop them
+making bad decisions.
+
+Times move on. Why take a legacy bit of software and keep on developing
+it? If they *really* cared so much for the KDE3 interface they would
+port it to qt4 or even qt5, not limp on with outdated base layers.
 
Funny you say that. I believe they tried with a pkg called qtinterface. Don't quote me, but the gist of it was that qt4 has performance issues in many areas.
+
It's all POV... I wouldn't call kde4 the panacea of DEs either... so in a sense I agree with you in that it doesn't stop a group of ppl from making a long set of bad decisions....
+ +
+
+Col
+
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+http://colin.guthr.ie/
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited http://www.tribalogic.net/
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor http://www.mageia.org/
+  PulseAudio Hacker http://www.pulseaudio.org/
+  Trac Hacker http://trac.edgewall.org/
+

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On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Colin Guthrie <mageia@colin.guthr.ie> wrote:
+'Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 02/03/12 19:43 did gyre and gimble:
+
> On 02.03.2012 19:55, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+>> 02.03.2012 20:49, Kamil Rytarowski skrev:
+>>> Hello!
+>>>
+>>> Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish
+>>> community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people can't
+>>> switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.
+>>>
+>> NO.
+>>
+>> As stated a million times before...
+>>
+>> qt3 is obsolete
+>>
+>> The only reason we have some qt3 runtime support is because of LSB
+> Sad..
+>>
+>> Any stuff needed should be ported to qt4.
+> Actually this is not true. One of our Mageia users (who introduced
+> Mageia on a dozen of machines) can't switch the next dozen because of
+> lacking Rivendell Radio Broadcasting software (
+> http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml ), the other can't use his
+> favourite qt3 apps, and a few others (including RH employee) are forced
+> to use Fedora or KDE4.
+>
+> If the "obsolete" part is the only reason, then it's not too strong..
+> the package is maintained and there is *upstream*.
+>
+> As of the 3.5.13 release the Trinity project has taken over maintenance
+> of Qt3.
+>
+>     This means we are the new "upstream" location for up-to-date Qt3
+> source code.
+>     Since there have been no updates or stable releases from
+> Nokia/Trolltech in many years and there are literally hundreds patches
+> floating around, there was a significant need for a central location.
+>     By maintaining Qt3 it will allow us to continue to improve Qt3
+> outside the scope of Trinity. It will also provide a central location
+> for Linux distributions to build packages from, and contributers to
+> submit code to.
+>     For obvious reasons any Qt3 version released by this project is
+> licensed under the GPL only; holders of Trolltech Qt licenses may not
+> use these versions in their proprietary projects.
+>
+> http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3
+>
+>
+> Trinity is currently packaged for Mandriva, OpenSUSE and available for
+> the main distros.
+
+
I am thoroughly unimpressed with this trinity stuff. Open Source
+software gives people freedoms and that's good, but it doesn't stop them
+making bad decisions.
+
+Times move on. Why take a legacy bit of software and keep on developing
+it? If they *really* cared so much for the KDE3 interface they would
+port it to qt4 or even qt5, not limp on with outdated base layers.
 
Funny you say that. I believe they tried with a pkg called qtinterface. Don't quote me, but the gist of it was that qt4 has performance issues in many areas.
+
It's all POV... I wouldn't call kde4 the panacea of DEs either... so in a sense I agree with you in that it doesn't stop a group of ppl from making a long set of bad decisions....
+ +
+
+Col
+
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+http://colin.guthr.ie/
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited http://www.tribalogic.net/
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor http://www.mageia.org/
+  PulseAudio Hacker http://www.pulseaudio.org/
+  Trac Hacker http://trac.edgewall.org/
+

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