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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Tue Nov 30 04:09:16 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le lundi 29 novembre 2010 &#224; 20:54 -0500, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Yann Ciret a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I dislike the main/contrib separation in some case.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The first example is with Mozilla Thunderbird packages. Some extension
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages are in contrib. So each time thunderbird received security
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; update, the update cannot be installed because of non automatically
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rebuild of his contrib package. And each time I see a bug report of user
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; asking a manual rebuilt. With only one core media, this situation will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; disapear (I hope).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Unlikely. This problem is not at all related to separate repositories.
+</I>
+It is. It is exactly related to the fact that thunderbird is supported,
+and that extension are not despites depending on it.
+
+That precisely because we tell &quot;security and bugfixes occurs only on
+main&quot; that contribs got broken, since the security team do not care to
+not break contribs packages.
+
+&gt;<i> Rather that one package was updated, and an optional installed module
+</I>&gt;<i> was not.
+</I>&gt;<i> The fact that the module is optional is the key point.
+</I>&gt;<i> The installer should be flexible enough to give a warning in this case,
+</I>&gt;<i> and ask if you wish to continue the installation.
+</I>
+So basically, you want a --nodeps ?
+If there is a requires, there is usually a good reason. Engineering is
+not randomly adding line to a file until it work.
+
+&gt;<i> As well, in the case of Thunderbird, it is almost certain that the
+</I>&gt;<i> installed module was in fact compatible with newer version of
+</I>&gt;<i> Thunderbird. (A security problem may directly impact Thunderbird or the
+</I>&gt;<i> module, but highly unlikely both packages.)
+</I>&gt;<i> Rpm tags should have been set so that Thunderbird would recognize that
+</I>&gt;<i> the module was appropriate in the newer version.
+</I>
+No. If there is stricter dependency, it is precisely because there is no
+guarantee of any kind of ABI between thunderbird versions. The same goes
+for firefox.
+
+&gt;<i> So in sum, this was probably only a packaging problem. Whatever the
+</I>&gt;<i> repository.
+</I>
+No. Not at all.
+The problem is linked to the difference of support between main and
+contribs.
+--
+Michael Scherer
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