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    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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<PRE>Le lundi 29 novembre 2010 &#224; 20:54 -0500, andre999 a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> Yann Ciret a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i>       
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I dislike the main/contrib separation in some case.
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The first example is with Mozilla Thunderbird packages. Some extension
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages are in contrib. So each time thunderbird received security
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; update, the update cannot be installed because of non automatically
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rebuild of his contrib package. And each time I see a bug report of user
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; asking a manual rebuilt. With only one core media, this situation will
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; disapear (I hope).
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;    
</I>&gt;<i> Unlikely.  This problem is not at all related to separate repositories.
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It is. It is exactly related to the fact that thunderbird is supported,
and that extension are not despites depending on it.

That precisely because we tell &quot;security and bugfixes occurs only on
main&quot; that contribs got broken, since the security team do not care to
not break contribs packages.

&gt;<i> Rather that one package was updated, and an optional installed module 
</I>&gt;<i> was not.
</I>&gt;<i> The fact that the module is optional is the key point.
</I>&gt;<i> The installer should be flexible enough to give a warning in this case, 
</I>&gt;<i> and ask if you wish to continue the installation.
</I>
So basically, you want a --nodeps ? 
If there is a requires, there is usually a good reason. Engineering is
not randomly adding line to a file until it work.

&gt;<i> As well, in the case of Thunderbird, it is almost certain that the 
</I>&gt;<i> installed module was in fact compatible with newer version of 
</I>&gt;<i> Thunderbird.  (A security problem may directly impact Thunderbird or the 
</I>&gt;<i> module, but highly unlikely both packages.)
</I>&gt;<i> Rpm tags should have been set so that Thunderbird would recognize that 
</I>&gt;<i> the module was appropriate in the newer version.
</I>
No. If there is stricter dependency, it is precisely because there is no
guarantee of any kind of ABI between thunderbird versions. The same goes
for firefox.

&gt;<i> So in sum, this was probably only a packaging problem.  Whatever the 
</I>&gt;<i> repository.
</I>
No. Not at all. 
The problem is linked to the difference of support between main and
contribs.
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Michael Scherer

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