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+ <B>Thorsten van Lil</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jun 29 15:00:00 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Am 29.06.2011 14:43, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Luc Menut &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">lmenut at free.fr</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 29/06/2011 08:42, Thorsten van Lil a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Dear team-mates,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; we will hold a short meeting today:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Topics are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * Window decoration
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mainly as a Mageia's user, and also as a packager, I would make
+</I>&gt;<i> some remarks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; about window decoration for next Mageia release.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We had several bugs in the past (at start of ia_ora in Mdv) with
+</I>&gt;<i> our own
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; window decoration.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maintaining a good window decoration is lot of work, and I'm not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have enough manpower to do so (or that it's the best use of our
+</I>&gt;<i> limited
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; manpower!!).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I would prefer if we use the upstream window decoration (and
+</I>&gt;<i> widget style)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of desktop environments (even if we have some differences between
+</I>&gt;<i> DE), and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; we take time to polish the integration of most of graphics
+</I>&gt;<i> applications
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (qt4, gtk2, and now gtk3 apps) in each DE.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; my 2 cents :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we need coherency between the desktops so we need the same default
+</I>&gt;<i> theme for gtk and kde apps.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is why i propose this :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE =&gt; Oxygen
+</I>&gt;<i> GTK 3 =&gt; Oxygen-gtk3
+</I>&gt;<i> GTK 2 =&gt; Oxygen-gtk
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can't use ia ora anymore for mageia 2 because we would need to
+</I>&gt;<i> recode all the theme for gtk3 so better leave it in peace and use a
+</I>&gt;<i> new one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a gnome packager i started to package oxygen-gtk3 and i will work
+</I>&gt;<i> to have it usuable in our gnome 3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My 2 cents: I've never like ia-ora, and if I recall a discussion on the
+</I>&gt;<i> forum, neither do many other people.
+</I>&gt;<i> For that reason alone I think it would be expedient to switch the
+</I>&gt;<i> default scheme to Oxygen.
+</I>&gt;<i> But of course there are other, better reasons :P
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yeah, I doesn't like ia-ora either. And I'm with Dexter. We need
+coherency. So to sums things up, we need a window-decoration, which is
+available for kde(and qt), gtk2, and gtk3, or an engine which allows to
+use a kde theme in gtk (or vice versa). So one of us, should collect the
+available decorations which fits these requirements.
+Mandriva has a new theme in KDE, which looks very similar to the new
+GNOME3 decoration. So there should be probably some solutions, without
+to much work for us.
+
+Thorsten
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