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<B>Thorsten van Lil</B>
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<PRE>Am 29.06.2011 14:43, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
><i> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Dexter Morgan <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>
</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>>> wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Luc Menut <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">lmenut at free.fr</A>
</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">lmenut at free.fr</A>>> wrote:
</I>><i> > Hi,
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Le 29/06/2011 08:42, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Dear team-mates,
</I>><i> >> we will hold a short meeting today:
</I>><i> >> Topics are:
</I>><i> >> * Window decoration
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Mainly as a Mageia's user, and also as a packager, I would make
</I>><i> some remarks
</I>><i> > about window decoration for next Mageia release.
</I>><i> > We had several bugs in the past (at start of ia_ora in Mdv) with
</I>><i> our own
</I>><i> > window decoration.
</I>><i> > Maintaining a good window decoration is lot of work, and I'm not
</I>><i> sure we
</I>><i> > have enough manpower to do so (or that it's the best use of our
</I>><i> limited
</I>><i> > manpower!!).
</I>><i> > I would prefer if we use the upstream window decoration (and
</I>><i> widget style)
</I>><i> > of desktop environments (even if we have some differences between
</I>><i> DE), and
</I>><i> > we take time to polish the integration of most of graphics
</I>><i> applications
</I>><i> > (qt4, gtk2, and now gtk3 apps) in each DE.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > my 2 cents :-)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> we need coherency between the desktops so we need the same default
</I>><i> theme for gtk and kde apps.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> This is why i propose this :
</I>><i>
</I>><i> KDE => Oxygen
</I>><i> GTK 3 => Oxygen-gtk3
</I>><i> GTK 2 => Oxygen-gtk
</I>><i>
</I>><i> We can't use ia ora anymore for mageia 2 because we would need to
</I>><i> recode all the theme for gtk3 so better leave it in peace and use a
</I>><i> new one.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> As a gnome packager i started to package oxygen-gtk3 and i will work
</I>><i> to have it usuable in our gnome 3.
</I>><i>
</I>><i>
</I>><i> My 2 cents: I've never like ia-ora, and if I recall a discussion on the
</I>><i> forum, neither do many other people.
</I>><i> For that reason alone I think it would be expedient to switch the
</I>><i> default scheme to Oxygen.
</I>><i> But of course there are other, better reasons :P
</I>><i>
</I>
Yeah, I doesn't like ia-ora either. And I'm with Dexter. We need
coherency. So to sums things up, we need a window-decoration, which is
available for kde(and qt), gtk2, and gtk3, or an engine which allows to
use a kde theme in gtk (or vice versa). So one of us, should collect the
available decorations which fits these requirements.
Mandriva has a new theme in KDE, which looks very similar to the new
GNOME3 decoration. So there should be probably some solutions, without
to much work for us.
Thorsten
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