[Mageia-artwork] Meeting tonight

Wed Jun 29 15:00:00 CEST 2011

Am 29.06.2011 14:43, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Dexter Morgan <dmorganec at gmail.com
+> <mailto:dmorganec at gmail.com>> wrote:
+>
+>     On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Luc Menut <lmenut at free.fr
+>     <mailto:lmenut at free.fr>> wrote:
+>      > Hi,
+>      >
+>      > Le 29/06/2011 08:42, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
+>      >>
+>      >> Dear team-mates,
+>      >> we will hold a short meeting today:
+>      >> Topics are:
+>      >> * Window decoration
+>      >
+>      > Mainly as a Mageia's user, and also as a packager, I would make
+>     some remarks
+>      > about window decoration for next Mageia release.
+>      > We had several bugs in the past (at start of ia_ora in Mdv) with
+>     our own
+>      > window decoration.
+>      > Maintaining a good window decoration is lot of work, and I'm not
+>     sure we
+>      > have enough manpower to do so (or that it's the best use of our
+>     limited
+>      > manpower!!).
+>      > I would prefer if we use the upstream window decoration (and
+>     widget style)
+>      > of desktop environments (even if we have some differences between
+>     DE), and
+>      > we take time to polish the integration of most of graphics
+>     applications
+>      > (qt4, gtk2, and now gtk3 apps) in each DE.
+>      >
+>      > my 2 cents :-)
+>
+>     we need coherency between the desktops so we need the same default
+>     theme for gtk and kde apps.
+>
+>     This is why i propose this :
+>
+>     KDE => Oxygen
+>     GTK 3  => Oxygen-gtk3
+>     GTK 2  => Oxygen-gtk
+>
+>     We can't use ia ora anymore for mageia  2 because we would need to
+>     recode all the theme for gtk3 so better leave it in peace and use a
+>     new one.
+>
+>     As a gnome packager i started to package oxygen-gtk3 and i will work
+>     to have it usuable in our gnome 3.
+>
+>
+> My 2 cents: I've never like ia-ora, and if I recall a discussion on the
+> forum, neither do many other people.
+> For that reason alone I think it would be expedient to switch the
+> default scheme to Oxygen.
+> But of course there are other, better reasons :P
+>
+
+Yeah, I doesn't like ia-ora either. And I'm with Dexter. We need 
+coherency. So to sums things up, we need a window-decoration, which is 
+available for kde(and qt), gtk2, and gtk3, or an engine which allows to 
+use a kde theme in gtk (or vice versa). So one of us, should collect the 
+available decorations which fits these requirements.
+Mandriva has a new theme in KDE, which looks very similar to the new 
+GNOME3 decoration. So there should be probably some solutions, without 
+to much work for us.
+
+Thorsten
+