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+ <B>Olivier FAURAX</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jan 5 21:51:00 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+We need to find and discuss logo guidelines, and to see what we can
+allow/disallow about the logo.
+In this text, &quot;logo&quot; refer to the whole thing (cauldron, bubble,
+&quot;mageia&quot; text). The &quot;icon&quot; is cauldron+bubble.
+
+[logo, icon &amp; text]
+The logo can be used text-only, icon-only or text+icon with respect to
+proportion.
+That is, you can't make the cauldron bigger if you don't make the text
+bigger too, in the same proportion.
+However, when the icon is not in the same graphic element, the
+proportion might vary. For example, if you use the icon as the
+background on a webpage and the text in the banner.
+
+[shape]
+The icon shape must not be altered.
+You can't remove bubbles, or replace them with something else (like
+stars or kde wheels).
+You can't change the cauldron shape to make it square or something else.
+You can't change the place of the bubbles with respect to the cauldron.
+
+The text shape must not be altered.
+You can't change the police used.
+You can't remove or replace a letter.
+
+[colors]
+You can't fill the bubbles with the same colors of the bubbles border.
+
+The colors of the bubbles must be the same (NOT SURE).
+The colors of the cauldron+bubbles border must be the same (NOT SURE).
+You must choose between several predefined color schemes for the logo
+(NOT SURE).
+The colors of the letters must be the same (NOT SURE)
+The colors of the letters must be from a predefined color scheme (NOT SURE)
+
+Have a nice day
+--
+Olivier FAURAX, <A HREF="http://ofaurax.free.fr/">http://ofaurax.free.fr/</A>
+Le bonheur est une question d'habitude
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+ <B>Olivier FAURAX</B>
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+<PRE>Le 05/01/2011 21:51, Olivier FAURAX a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need to find and discuss logo guidelines, and to see what we can
+</I>&gt;<i> allow/disallow about the logo.
+</I>&gt;<i> In this text, &quot;logo&quot; refer to the whole thing (cauldron, bubble,
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;mageia&quot; text). The &quot;icon&quot; is cauldron+bubble.
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>
+Also, if you see modified logo in the wild, please report them.
+
+I just saw the logo from <A HREF="http://cia.vc/stats/project/Mageia">http://cia.vc/stats/project/Mageia</A>
+
+Modifications from original:
+- modified bubble width
+- gradient from black to grey, on the cauldron and on the bubble
+
+I think the modified bubble width is bad, it doesn't seem bubbles now.
+For the gradient, I think it should be &quot;icon-wise&quot; rather than applying
+to each bubble (+cauldron) indepedently.
+
+Have a nice day
+--
+Olivier FAURAX, <A HREF="http://ofaurax.free.fr/">http://ofaurax.free.fr/</A>
+&quot;Rien de ce qui m&#233;rite d'&#234;tre appris ne peut &#234;tre enseign&#233;.&quot; Oscar Wilde.
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:39, Olivier FAURAX &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">olivier at faurax.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 05/01/2011 21:51, Olivier FAURAX a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We need to find and discuss logo guidelines, and to see what we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> allow/disallow about the logo.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In this text, &quot;logo&quot; refer to the whole thing (cauldron, bubble,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;mageia&quot; text). The &quot;icon&quot; is cauldron+bubble.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, if you see modified logo in the wild, please report them.
+</I>
+Indeed. We might set up a form to help for this reporting.
+
+&gt;<i> I just saw the logo from <A HREF="http://cia.vc/stats/project/Mageia">http://cia.vc/stats/project/Mageia</A>
+</I>
+I don't know who put this one there.
+
+&gt;<i> Modifications from original:
+</I>&gt;<i> - modified bubble width
+</I>&gt;<i> - gradient from black to grey, on the cauldron and on the bubble
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think the modified bubble width is bad, it doesn't seem bubbles now.
+</I>&gt;<i> For the gradient, I think it should be &quot;icon-wise&quot; rather than applying
+</I>&gt;<i> to each bubble (+cauldron) indepedently.
+</I>
+Actually, the reference original is not really decided yet. And we
+will have to discuss/work on this in the next days/weeks. We asked to
+Caroline to check on this (and drafted a few versions then) and we saw
+of her work this week-end on paper. She should post them here soon and
+we can discuss on this. Nothing official to this point.
+
+Romain
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:39, Olivier FAURAX &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">olivier at faurax.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just saw the logo from <A HREF="http://cia.vc/stats/project/Mageia">http://cia.vc/stats/project/Mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know who put this one there.
+</I>
+As I discovered that I have the power to do it, I put the original one....
+
+&gt;<i> Actually, the reference original is not really decided yet. And we
+</I>&gt;<i> will have to discuss/work on this in the next days/weeks. We asked to
+</I>&gt;<i> Caroline to check on this (and drafted a few versions then) and we saw
+</I>&gt;<i> of her work this week-end on paper. She should post them here soon and
+</I>&gt;<i> we can discuss on this. Nothing official to this point.
+</I>
+Ok. Keep in touch...
+--
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+<PRE> HI people, first of all clarify that my spoken English does not
+exist, but I'll
+use google translator.
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+ <A HREF="http://artdriva.deviantart.com/gallery/">http://artdriva.deviantart.com/gallery/</A> I'm staying here all I'm doing to
+MDV, mageia or pleasure ;)
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+My idea is to make my work available as needed, there will be time to do
+what you like. ;)
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+The FIFO: I depend on a translator to handle English.
+
+ I'm starting my work with <A HREF="https://github.com/rdalverny/scripts">https://github.com/rdalverny/scripts</A> and the
+question are:
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+Mandriva has its collection of icons in svg format? Why images downloaded with
+the rdalverny script's are mostly from PNG. :(
+
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+What is mageia policy on the issue of format? We create everything in
+SVG? I think
+that is what is needed, but better ask. ;)
+
+Does anyone know if there is some kind of coordination as each person is
+responsible for the adaptation of a set of icons based for example on the
+modules listed in the file modules_list.txt?
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+<PRE>Le 15/01/2011 16:54, Guala a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> The FIFO: I depend on a translator to handle English.
+</I>
+No problem, it's not that bad.
+
+&gt;<i> I'm starting my work with <A HREF="https://github.com/rdalverny/scripts">https://github.com/rdalverny/scripts</A> and
+</I>&gt;<i> the question are:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva has its collection of icons in svg format? Why images
+</I>&gt;<i> downloaded with the rdalvernyscript'sare mostly from PNG. :(
+</I>
+SVG are then converted into PNGs
+
+&gt;<i> What is mageia policy on the issue of format?
+</I>
+There was not an issue until you spotted it :)
+
+&gt;<i> We create everything in SVG?
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that is what is needed, but better ask. ;)
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Does anyone know if there is some kind of coordination as each
+</I>&gt;<i> person is responsible for the adaptation of a set of icons based for
+</I>&gt;<i> example on the modules listed in the file modules_list.txt?
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-01-12-18.41.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-01-12-18.41.html</A>
+
+I'm the coordinator for icon replacement.
+For 1st iteration, we don't have artistic guidelines.
+
+We start with the icons from the component desktop-common-data.
+
+For each icon, the preferred solution is to take one from KDE or GNOME
+project.
+If still missing, you can do a basic icon yourself, but don't put too
+much time in it, it will be re-replaced when the final marketing
+guidelines will be published.
+
+We replace the images with image in the same *format* and with same
+*size*. If the size mismatch, cut or add some blank content.
+
+Don't forget that the goal is to replace the icons, in a very short time.
+
+What NOT to do:
+- take an icon from the web (copyright problems)
+- spend too much time replacing ONE icon (we must be quick for the 1st
+alpha)
+
+Have a nice day
+--
+Olivier FAURAX, <A HREF="http://ofaurax.free.fr/">http://ofaurax.free.fr/</A>
+Pour les images vectorielles (logos, sch&#233;mas), utilisez Inkscape :
+<A HREF="http://www.inkscape.org/?lang=fr">http://www.inkscape.org/?lang=fr</A>
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+<PRE>OK, apparently knew most things and now I will ask some details that I have
+become clear:
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+What date for the launch of the first Alpha mageia? I understand it this
+month or very soon?
+
+Since suggest begin with the icons at desktop-common-data, I have another
+big question: xD
+Someone has already done something and that thing with these icons? I ask
+this not to work with the same icons for desktop-common-data to another and
+adapted.
+
+As the first icons adapted for mageia alpha in the end will not be used in
+the final version, I understand when you say that it is not worth investing
+time (too much or too much) in them, then the logical question is:
+
+Why not set a guideline then work momentarily to mageia-artwork in regard to
+the colors? a proposal that I saw in the mailing list, I have to apply some
+filter monochrome (grayscale) using Tango icons and / or Crystal, coordinate
+with the beautiful background <A HREF="http://bit.ly/erigOn?">http://bit.ly/erigOn?</A> ... for now and until I
+indicate otherwise, I'll work on it, but insist that would better coordinate
+these details. ;)
+
+Now insist on a requirement that I did but has not been answered:;)
+
+Need, want and hope the direction SVG source of the work presented in any
+event mageia (IRC web site, etc.), there are several reasons, but I guess we
+all know the most general, Freedom, Transparency and community work. ;)
+
+For my part I find it unacceptable to have to give me the job of designing
+my own logo mageia SVG if it already exists, if I am a designer is always
+clear that what I want is the source file, SVGs, XFCs, etc., and not only
+PNG, Mageia or is free or not?
+
+
+SeeU!
+
+AH! Remember that my English is the same as google translator. xD
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+&gt;<i> OK, apparently knew most things and now I will ask some details that I
+</I>&gt;<i> have become clear:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What date for the launch of the first Alpha mageia? I understand it this
+</I>&gt;<i> month or very soon?
+</I>
+The packages start to build : <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/</A>
+THe last estimation is a first alpha for the end of the month.
+
+&gt;<i> Since suggest begin with the icons at desktop-common-data, I have
+</I>&gt;<i> another big question: xD
+</I>&gt;<i> Someone has already done something and that thing with these icons? I
+</I>&gt;<i> ask this not to work with the same icons for desktop-common-data to
+</I>&gt;<i> another and adapted.
+</I>
+You're the first to work on it.
+
+&gt;<i> As the first icons adapted for mageia alpha in the end will not be used
+</I>&gt;<i> in the final version, I understand when you say that it is not worth
+</I>&gt;<i> investing time (too much or too much) in them, then the logical question
+</I>&gt;<i> is:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not set a guideline then work momentarily to mageia-artwork in
+</I>&gt;<i> regard to the colors?
+</I>
+Because it will take time to reach an agreement on the guidelines, and
+that we will replace and redesign it anyway.
+
+&gt;<i> a proposal that I saw in the mailing list, I have
+</I>&gt;<i> to apply some filter monochrome (grayscale) using Tango icons and / or
+</I>&gt;<i> Crystal, coordinate with the beautiful background <A HREF="http://bit.ly/erigOn?">http://bit.ly/erigOn?</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ... for now and until I indicate otherwise, I'll work on it, but insist
+</I>&gt;<i> that would better coordinate these details. ;)
+</I>
+I don't know about the monochrome thing.
+It the Tango/Crystal icon is Ok, take it and move on.
+
+&gt;<i> Need, want and hope the direction SVG source of the work presented in
+</I>&gt;<i> any event mageia (IRC web site, etc.), there are several reasons, but I
+</I>&gt;<i> guess we all know the most general, Freedom, Transparency and community
+</I>&gt;<i> work. ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For my part I find it unacceptable to have to give me the job of
+</I>&gt;<i> designing my own logo mageia SVG if it already exists, if I am a
+</I>&gt;<i> designer is always clear that what I want is the source file, SVGs,
+</I>&gt;<i> XFCs, etc., and not only PNG, Mageia or is free or not?
+</I>
+The logo is in refinement stage, and then will be published in SVG, I
+think. But we don't need it now.
+
+The purpose now is to replace icons. The fact that we use SVG or other
+format is dictated by the need to replace with the same format of the
+original file, to ensure compatibility (a program design to use a PNG
+might not be able to open a SVG).
+
+Have a nice day
+--
+Olivier FAURAX, <A HREF="http://ofaurax.free.fr/">http://ofaurax.free.fr/</A>
+&quot;Seuls ceux qui sont assez fous pour croire pouvoir changer le monde...
+y parviennent !&quot;
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+&gt;<i> Le 15/01/2011 16:54, Guala a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm starting my work with <A HREF="https://github.com/rdalverny/scripts">https://github.com/rdalverny/scripts</A> and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the question are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mandriva has its collection of icons in svg format? Why images
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> downloaded with the rdalvernyscript'sare mostly from PNG. :(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> SVG are then converted into PNGs
+</I>
+No vectorial source is available for Mandriva own icons set (and it
+wouldn't be more freely licensed if ever).
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> What is mageia policy on the issue of format?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was not an issue until you spotted it :)
+</I>
+So that's something to think through for Mageia: availability of
+vectorial source files for artwork.
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+<PRE>*Spanish*:
+Como no hay nada mejor que aclarar los malos entendidos:
+
+* English~Google Translator:*
+As there is nothing better than to clarify any misunderstandings:
+*
+
+Spanish*:
+Bueno, t&#250; respuesta no me ha gustado para nada, como es posible que me digas
+que no lo necesito ahora, a mi no me gusta trabajar donde no se practica lo
+que se predica, o se es LIBRE o te mueves en las tinieblas y eso no es lo
+m&#237;o, yo no te ofrezco mi tiempo bajo ninguna condici&#243;n y lo m&#237;nimo que
+espero de vuelta es m&#225;s de los mismo, libertad y confianza.
+
+* English~Google Translator:*
+Well, your answer I did not like at all, as you may tell me you do not need
+it now, I do not like working where they do not practice what it preaches,
+or is FREE and you move into the darkness and that is not mine, I offer you
+my time under any conditions and the least I expect back is more of the
+same, freedom and confidence.
+
+
+*Continuing** the theme of icons: *;)
+Here I leave some screenshots of Color Tango icons converted into light and
+dark gray respectively, obviously, I could convert the rest of the icons,
+but that depends if they decide to use in the alpha version, otherwise, do
+not dream it I will. xDDD
+
+<A HREF="http://img809.imageshack.us/i/tangocoloriconstogrey.png/">http://img809.imageshack.us/i/tangocoloriconstogrey.png/</A>
+<A HREF="http://img94.imageshack.us/i/tangocoloriconstogreyin.png/">http://img94.imageshack.us/i/tangocoloriconstogreyin.png/</A>
+
+
+What would happen if I respond the same with respect to the icons?, ie, I
+have them ready but I will deliver them when I decide, is or not a bad
+answer?. xDDDD Please, we are consistent with the principles of mageia!... as
+long as I have understood correctly Mageia values.
+
+
+....and I got bored with the Spanish/English xD
+
+
+SeeU Oliver!
+
+Freedom does not recognize schedules or opinions, only to those
+free-spirited, tolerant and responsible.
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+
+please do not post a new message, but reply to the message you're
+reply-ing to, so we know who/what you're writing about. Here are only
+more guesses.
+
+On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 18:50, Guala &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">gualadrake at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Well, your answer I did not like at all, as you may tell me you do not need
+</I>&gt;<i> it now, I do not like working where they do not practice what it preaches,
+</I>&gt;<i> or is FREE and you move into the darkness and that is not mine, I offer you
+</I>&gt;<i> my time under any conditions and the least I expect back is more of the
+</I>&gt;<i> same, freedom and confidence.
+</I>
+If you're referring to my answer about Mandriva icons not being
+available as SVG or not with a clear license, I don't see the problem:
+I was speaking of existing _Mandriva_ _specific_ icons; for which
+there is no clear license that would allow reuse (and modification for
+that matter).
+
+If you're referring to the logo, you may have a little patience,
+please. It's not a matter of keeping things obscure, it's a matter of
+letting people post their own (derivative) work for discussion.
+
+&gt;<i> Continuing the theme of icons: ;)
+</I>&gt;<i> Here I leave some screenshots of Color Tango icons converted into light and
+</I>&gt;<i> dark gray respectively, obviously, I could convert the rest of the icons,
+</I>&gt;<i> but that depends if they decide to use in the alpha version, otherwise, do
+</I>&gt;<i> not dream it I will. xDDD
+</I>
+See with Olivier.
+
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+before posting this to the -discuss list (and later on on the web page
+as soon as we have final versions), here is a point founders discussed
+about the Mageia brand and logo management (regarding official and
+community derivative uses). Your input is welcome.
+
+We (founders) want to have a separate identity for:
+ - what is officially released by the Mageia project as such,
+ - and what is released as derivative work from the Mageia project
+(being ISOs or other things).
+
+We already have the official Mageia logo (waiting for
+refinements/discussions yet, another separate mail), designed by
+Olivier. We would like, if possible, to have the Mageia
+derivative/community logo based on the official, so there is an
+obvious connection, yet difference between the two.
+
+See the Debian logos that give an idea of what we have in mind
+<A HREF="http://www.debian.org/logos/">http://www.debian.org/logos/</A> . It may be a subtile yet significant
+difference, a pattern applied, a diagonal stripes mask, or whatever,
+it's open.
+
+Why set two logos? We don't want to have the official Mageia identity
+face misuses or be diluted - there will be guidelines to prevent that
+of course, but we still prefer to keep some tighter control over the
+logo usage.
+
+So to allow/ease derivative/community uses, we need to setup a
+dedicated logo (still with important guidelines/purposes to follow).
+There are several use cases that should be facilitated with that:
+ - derivative/customized distribution release,
+ - local communities events,
+ - communities web sites.
+
+
+In short, that would make:
+ - official Mageia.Org brand/logo (the one chosen a few days ago) =&gt;
+strict guidelines, for Mageia.Org official releases only (and quotes)
+ - Mageia community derivated identity (for local
+communities/projects/initiatives that are tied to Mageia but not
+necessarily officially managed) =&gt; strict guidelines too, but for
+community/derivative uses
+ - case by case management for further logos, with required approval
+from the artwork team and validation from council or board.
+ - exclusive source distribution from Mageia.org website (or dedicated
+Mageia.org artwork website).
+
+
+What's your take on this?
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 9 janvier 2011 17:52:28, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:39, Olivier FAURAX &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">olivier at faurax.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 05/01/2011 21:51, Olivier FAURAX a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We need to find and discuss logo guidelines, and to see what we can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; allow/disallow about the logo.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; In this text, &quot;logo&quot; refer to the whole thing (cauldron, bubble,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &quot;mageia&quot; text). The &quot;icon&quot; is cauldron+bubble.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Also, if you see modified logo in the wild, please report them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed. We might set up a form to help for this reporting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I just saw the logo from <A HREF="http://cia.vc/stats/project/Mageia">http://cia.vc/stats/project/Mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know who put this one there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Modifications from original:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - modified bubble width
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - gradient from black to grey, on the cauldron and on the bubble
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think the modified bubble width is bad, it doesn't seem bubbles now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For the gradient, I think it should be &quot;icon-wise&quot; rather than applying
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to each bubble (+cauldron) indepedently.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, the reference original is not really decided yet. And we
+</I>&gt;<i> will have to discuss/work on this in the next days/weeks. We asked to
+</I>&gt;<i> Caroline to check on this (and drafted a few versions then) and we saw
+</I>&gt;<i> of her work this week-end on paper. She should post them here soon and
+</I>&gt;<i> we can discuss on this. Nothing official to this point.
+</I>
+Indeed, I was working on it. You can see my first draft here:
+<A HREF="http://www.kalypo.com/share/">http://www.kalypo.com/share/</A>
+
+We have tried to:
+- rebalance the logo: increase the size of the text and reduce the cauldron
+- apply a gradient to dynamize the screen version of the logo (the print
+version will be flatten)
+- introduce a color . This proposal offers the possibility to have one logo but
+different color for each group (cf- Romain's mail_brand/logo management,
+official/derivative)
+
+WDYI?
+
+--
+Caro
+
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+And the font's graisse (i think it's emphasis or weight in English) should be proportional to the logo's stroke thickness.
+Also the inner top angles of the logo should be slightly smoothed.
+The bubbles should be moved up a bit and smaller (90%).
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+I am not sure about this one: maybe we could match the g's bowl with the 90&#176; logo's cauldron.
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 00:02, Caroline Garlatti &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">cgarlatti at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 9 janvier 2011 17:52:28, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed, I was working on it. You can see my first draft here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.kalypo.com/share/">http://www.kalypo.com/share/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have tried to:
+</I>&gt;<i> - rebalance the logo: increase the size of the text and reduce the cauldron
+</I>
+Actually, the size of the text made smaller relative to the cauldron
+(see <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/mageia_logo.jpg">http://blog.mageia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/mageia_logo.jpg</A>
+) :-p
+
+&gt;<i> - apply a gradient to dynamize the screen version of the logo (the print
+</I>&gt;<i> version will be flatten)
+</I>&gt;<i> - introduce a color . This proposal offers the possibility to have one logo but
+</I>&gt;<i> different color for each group (cf- Romain's mail_brand/logo management,
+</I>&gt;<i> official/derivative)
+</I>
+With the time, I don't know if the color-coding will be enough to
+differentiate official/derivative uses.
+
+Anyway, we have two interesting refinement directions I guess:
+ - caroline, with the gradient, filled-in bubbles, and color uses,
+ - alexn83, with the font change (alexn83, I don't remeber, do you
+have the font reference, or is it reworked?) and the match of the i
+point with the bubbles
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+Romain
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+<PRE>Le 17/01/2011 18:50, Guala a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> *Continuing**the theme of icons: *;)
+</I>&gt;<i> Here I leave some screenshots of Color Tango icons converted into light
+</I>&gt;<i> and dark gray respectively, obviously, I could convert the rest of the
+</I>&gt;<i> icons, but that depends if they decide to use in the alpha version,
+</I>&gt;<i> otherwise, do not dream it I will. xDDD
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img809.imageshack.us/i/tangocoloriconstogrey.png/">http://img809.imageshack.us/i/tangocoloriconstogrey.png/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://img94.imageshack.us/i/tangocoloriconstogreyin.png/">http://img94.imageshack.us/i/tangocoloriconstogreyin.png/</A>
+</I>
+These icons are free, you don't need to convert them to use them in mageia.
+
+ES: Estos iconos son libres, no es necesario convertir para utilizar en
+mageia.
+
+&gt;<i> What would happen if I respond the same with respect to the icons?, ie,
+</I>&gt;<i> I have them ready but I will deliver them when I decide, is or not a bad
+</I>&gt;<i> answer?. xDDDD Please, we are consistent with the principles of
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia!... as long as I have understood correctly Mageia values.
+</I>
+I don't understand at all.
+I don't block the logo.
+It's simply being reworked a bit (with colors, etc.) before publishing
+the final one. Caroline just published her idea.
+
+Don't forget: current work is replacing mandriva icons with any suitable
+free icon (tango, crystal, etc.).
+
+Have a nice day
+--
+Olivier FAURAX, <A HREF="http://ofaurax.free.fr/">http://ofaurax.free.fr/</A>
+Soir&#233;es salsa pr&#232;s de chez vous : <A HREF="http://ofaurax.free.fr/salsa/">http://ofaurax.free.fr/salsa/</A>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Caroline Garlatti &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">cgarlatti at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 9 janvier 2011 17:52:28, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:39, Olivier FAURAX &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">olivier at faurax.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le 05/01/2011 21:51, Olivier FAURAX a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; We need to find and discuss logo guidelines, and to see what we can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; allow/disallow about the logo.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; In this text, &quot;logo&quot; refer to the whole thing (cauldron, bubble,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; &quot;mageia&quot; text). The &quot;icon&quot; is cauldron+bubble.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Also, if you see modified logo in the wild, please report them.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Indeed. We might set up a form to help for this reporting.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I just saw the logo from <A HREF="http://cia.vc/stats/project/Mageia">http://cia.vc/stats/project/Mageia</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't know who put this one there.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Modifications from original:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - modified bubble width
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - gradient from black to grey, on the cauldron and on the bubble
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I think the modified bubble width is bad, it doesn't seem bubbles now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; For the gradient, I think it should be &quot;icon-wise&quot; rather than applying
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to each bubble (+cauldron) indepedently.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Actually, the reference original is not really decided yet. And we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will have to discuss/work on this in the next days/weeks. We asked to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Caroline to check on this (and drafted a few versions then) and we saw
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of her work this week-end on paper. She should post them here soon and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; we can discuss on this. Nothing official to this point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed, I was working on it. You can see my first draft here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.kalypo.com/share/">http://www.kalypo.com/share/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have tried to:
+</I>&gt;<i> - rebalance the logo: increase the size of the text and reduce the cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> - apply a gradient to dynamize the screen version of the logo (the print
+</I>&gt;<i> version will be flatten)
+</I>&gt;<i> - introduce a color . This proposal offers the possibility to have one logo
+</I>&gt;<i> but
+</I>&gt;<i> different color for each group (cf- Romain's mail_brand/logo management,
+</I>&gt;<i> official/derivative)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYI?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Congrats, the logos look great and well-balanced.
+
+The colors and the gradients add freshness and enlighten the very bold
+cauldron.
+I wonder what it will look like with the color on the bubbles, the dot on i
+_and_ the m letter, though.
+
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+so, we meet on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-artwork">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-artwork</A> at 18:00 UTC on Wednesday.
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+Topics:
+ * logo (rda)
+ - check alexn83 &amp; caroline tracks and discuss briefly of options
+(cherry pick, choose one)
+ - derivative uses logo discussion (options, ideas)
+ - guidelines (for both) quick review
+ - disposal of sources and guidelines online
+ * icons replacement process (olivier)
+ * tshirts and stickers for Fosdem (dams)
+ * something else?
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+Some variants of a logo:
+<A HREF="http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/">http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/</A>
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+The inscription &quot;Mageia&quot; isn't derivative of any font (these are the
+drawn letters).
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+ <B>Olivier FAURAX</B>
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+<PRE>Le 18/01/2011 00:31, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 00:02, Caroline Garlatti &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">cgarlatti at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 9 janvier 2011 17:52:28, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, I was working on it. You can see my first draft here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.kalypo.com/share/">http://www.kalypo.com/share/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have tried to:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - rebalance the logo: increase the size of the text and reduce the cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, the size of the text made smaller relative to the cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> (see <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/mageia_logo.jpg">http://blog.mageia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/mageia_logo.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ) :-p
+</I>
+Yes, the cauldron is bigger, but also wider.
+
+The cauldron border size was took from the size of the letter (bottom
+border of the &quot;e&quot;), the new version breaks the link between the cauldron
+and letter size.
+To me, this suggests that the name an &quot;annex&quot; of the logo, like if ti
+was of less importance.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - apply a gradient to dynamize the screen version of the logo (the print
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> version will be flatten)
+</I>
+Nice.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - introduce a color . This proposal offers the possibility to have one logo but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> different color for each group (cf- Romain's mail_brand/logo management,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> official/derivative)
+</I>
+We need to know where we are going with colors.
+Do we have some input from marcom ?
+
+I made some tests during the logo elaboration :
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5118935357/in/set-72157625195368021/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5118935357/in/set-72157625195368021/</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5119536536/in/set-72157625195368021/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5119536536/in/set-72157625195368021/</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5159964096/in/set-72157625195368021/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5159964096/in/set-72157625195368021/</A>
+
+The blue and orange are ok, but seems childish to me (I imagine them on
+a toy).
+It's ok if we don't want to suggest something &quot;rock-solid&quot; or corporate.
+
+Note that the bubble in orange seems more natural, as we expect lighter
+colors for bubbles.
+
+For the letters, perhaps we might color &quot;m&quot;, &quot;g&quot; and &quot;a&quot; of &quot;mageia&quot;, as
+this is its package suffix.
+
+&gt;<i> With the time, I don't know if the color-coding will be enough to
+</I>&gt;<i> differentiate official/derivative uses.
+</I>
+I think that color is not enough to differentiate.
+We'll discussed that in another thread.
+
+- changed the font : this one is less wide (the &quot;e&quot; is no more rounded)
+- filled the bubbles
+
+The new border size of the cauldron with the filling of the bubbles
+makes the icon heavier, especially the bubbles (I don't imagine tham
+popping anymore).
+
+I think that we need to fill them, or at least put a color in them, but
+we might not lose the lightness of them (as this represents the boiling
+of ideas).
+
+&gt;<i> Anyway, we have two interesting refinement directions I guess:
+</I>&gt;<i> - caroline, with the gradient, filled-in bubbles, and color uses,
+</I>&gt;<i> - alexn83, with the font change (alexn83, I don't remeber, do you
+</I>&gt;<i> have the font reference, or is it reworked?) and the match of the i
+</I>&gt;<i> point with the bubbles
+</I>
+I'll try to put my remarks in another refinement as a showcase, if I
+find some time.
+
+Have a nice day
+--
+Olivier FAURAX, <A HREF="http://ofaurax.free.fr/">http://ofaurax.free.fr/</A>
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+<PRE>Le 17/01/2011 22:24, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> before posting this to the -discuss list (and later on on the web page
+</I>&gt;<i> as soon as we have final versions), here is a point founders discussed
+</I>&gt;<i> about the Mageia brand and logo management (regarding official and
+</I>&gt;<i> community derivative uses). Your input is welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We (founders) want to have a separate identity for:
+</I>&gt;<i> - what is officially released by the Mageia project as such,
+</I>&gt;<i> - and what is released as derivative work from the Mageia project
+</I>&gt;<i> (being ISOs or other things).
+</I>
+As an example, look at the difference between the former
+ubuntu/canonical logos.
+<A HREF="http://www.ivankristianto.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ubuntu-logo217.gif">http://www.ivankristianto.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ubuntu-logo217.gif</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.webactus.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/687px-Canonical_logo.png">http://www.webactus.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/687px-Canonical_logo.png</A>
+
+The whole thing has been redesigned since, and it's worth reading :
+<A HREF="http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/">http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/</A>
+For example, they defines colors (orange, grey, white and
+aubergine/purple), and they use it differently for ubuntu (orange on
+white, highlight in purple) and canonical (aubergine on grey, highlight
+in orange).
+
+I definitely need someone who can choose colors like that.
+
+&gt;<i> We already have the official Mageia logo (waiting for
+</I>&gt;<i> refinements/discussions yet, another separate mail), designed by
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier. We would like, if possible, to have the Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> derivative/community logo based on the official, so there is an
+</I>&gt;<i> obvious connection, yet difference between the two.
+</I>
+An idea to be refined :
+- color the cauldron body with a color representing the desktop (or
+purpose) : blue for KDE, red for GNOME, and so on, the border being
+untouchable black
+- let the top 3 bubbles color and the &quot;eia&quot; letters color chosen by the
+group, &quot;mag&quot; being untouchable black
+
+So the logo will have a untouchable part, and a &quot;use your colors&quot; part.
+I think that every group can choose a set of 3 colors to represent
+themselves (it's not a flag or something like that).
+
+I'll try to make a sketch of that idea.
+
+Something to discuss : would we be open to replace one of the last
+letter ? For example, the Paris User Group replacing the i of mageia
+with an effeil tower ? (I would be ok, as it's in the 3 final letters).
+
+&gt;<i> Why set two logos? We don't want to have the official Mageia identity
+</I>&gt;<i> face misuses or be diluted - there will be guidelines to prevent that
+</I>&gt;<i> of course, but we still prefer to keep some tighter control over the
+</I>&gt;<i> logo usage.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So to allow/ease derivative/community uses, we need to setup a
+</I>&gt;<i> dedicated logo (still with important guidelines/purposes to follow).
+</I>&gt;<i> There are several use cases that should be facilitated with that:
+</I>&gt;<i> - derivative/customized distribution release,
+</I>&gt;<i> - local communities events,
+</I>&gt;<i> - communities web sites.
+</I>
+Note that this can be combinated e.g. you need a logo for the KDE liveCD
+from the Italian group.
+
+&gt;<i> In short, that would make:
+</I>&gt;<i> - official Mageia.Org brand/logo (the one chosen a few days ago) =&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> strict guidelines, for Mageia.Org official releases only (and quotes)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mageia community derivated identity (for local
+</I>&gt;<i> communities/projects/initiatives that are tied to Mageia but not
+</I>&gt;<i> necessarily officially managed) =&gt; strict guidelines too, but for
+</I>&gt;<i> community/derivative uses
+</I>&gt;<i> - case by case management for further logos, with required approval
+</I>&gt;<i> from the artwork team and validation from council or board.
+</I>&gt;<i> - exclusive source distribution from Mageia.org website (or dedicated
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia.org artwork website).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What's your take on this?
+</I>
+It's ok for me.
+You might also start a list of communities to see if our process can
+provide a logo for each of them. It would be better to do it for them
+rather than waiting for them to design their own logo, by the way.
+
+Oh, and finally, I've got it :
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5368859836/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5368859836/</A>
+(I did it quickly with random colors, I hope you'll get the idea)
+
+Have a nice... night
+--
+Olivier FAURAX, <A HREF="http://ofaurax.free.fr/">http://ofaurax.free.fr/</A>
+Pour les images vectorielles (logos, sch&#233;mas), utilisez Inkscape :
+<A HREF="http://www.inkscape.org/?lang=fr">http://www.inkscape.org/?lang=fr</A>
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+&gt;<i> Greetings to all!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some variants of a logo:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/">http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The inscription &quot;Mageia&quot; isn't derivative of any font (these are the
+</I>&gt;<i> drawn letters).
+</I>
+Do you have the full alphabet drawn like that ?
+
+Have a nice day
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+&gt;<i> Le 19/01/2011 01:18, &#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Greetings to all!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some variants of a logo:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/">http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The inscription &quot;Mageia&quot; isn't derivative of any font (these are the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drawn letters).
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you have the full alphabet drawn like that ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Once again I ask: WHAT FOR?
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+---
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+&gt;<i> 19.01.11 4:41, Olivier FAURAX &#1087;&#1080;&#1096;&#1077;&#1090;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 19/01/2011 01:18, &#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Greetings to all!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Some variants of a logo:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/">http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The inscription &quot;Mageia&quot; isn't derivative of any font (these are the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> drawn letters).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you have the full alphabet drawn like that ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Once again I ask: WHAT FOR?
+</I>
+Well, I guess, for titles or Mageia.org specific headlines font?
+
+Romain
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+
+On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 01:28, Olivier FAURAX &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">olivier at faurax.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 18/01/2011 00:31, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 00:02, Caroline Garlatti &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">cgarlatti at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 9 janvier 2011 17:52:28, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, I was working on it. You can see my first draft here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.kalypo.com/share/">http://www.kalypo.com/share/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We have tried to:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - rebalance the logo: increase the size of the text and reduce the cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, the size of the text made smaller relative to the cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (see <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/mageia_logo.jpg">http://blog.mageia.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/mageia_logo.jpg</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ) :-p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, the cauldron is bigger, but also wider.
+</I>
+Well, that's the other way around. :-) The text has been made smaller,
+to have the &quot;m&quot; aligned within the inner border of the cauldron
+(that's an important setting in this realignement), and the same &quot;m&quot;
+has been used to set the space around the icon (crucial setting too).
+
+&gt;<i> The cauldron border size was took from the size of the letter (bottom
+</I>&gt;<i> border of the &quot;e&quot;), the new version breaks the link between the cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> and letter size.
+</I>
+Yes, but it will anyway if we change the font (and that may be an
+option). I understand that the initial link makes sense, and that's a
+good way to build the icon, but that too can be an intermediary step
+and the icon may live on its own later on (that is, the icon strutural
+definition may stand alone, separate from the initial &quot;e&quot;).
+
+&gt;<i> To me, this suggests that the name an &quot;annex&quot; of the logo, like if ti
+</I>&gt;<i> was of less importance.
+</I>
+Not of less importance, but balanced/contrasted; it makes both more
+remarkable: the icon is not a letter, but a distinctive sign, that may
+be on the left, or above the text.
+
+May be it can be rebalanced again, but you can't have a name that
+outweights the icon. Plus, negative space (around the full logo,
+around/between each of its components) is crucial.
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - introduce a color . This proposal offers the possibility to have one logo but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> different color for each group (cf- Romain's mail_brand/logo management,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> official/derivative)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need to know where we are going with colors.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we have some input from marcom ?
+</I>
+Not at this point. We'll add this point to discuss in the marcom
+meeting on Thursday. However we must go fast; or (it's likely to be
+this way given the time constraint) we will have a collector edition
+of tee-shirts for FOSDEM (understand it as, with a logo that is not
+the final official one). That may sound problematic at first, but it's
+not; time goes on and we already did that (have Mageia tee shirts with
+a temporary identity) for OWF back in October; and the
+finalized/updated logo will replace all instances.
+
+&gt;<i> I made some tests during the logo elaboration :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5118935357/in/set-72157625195368021/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5118935357/in/set-72157625195368021/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5119536536/in/set-72157625195368021/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5119536536/in/set-72157625195368021/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5159964096/in/set-72157625195368021/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5159964096/in/set-72157625195368021/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The blue and orange are ok, but seems childish to me (I imagine them on
+</I>&gt;<i> a toy).
+</I>&gt;<i> It's ok if we don't want to suggest something &quot;rock-solid&quot; or corporate.
+</I>
+Define &quot;corporate&quot;, &quot;childish&quot;; it's like &quot;pro&quot; or &quot;commercial&quot; it's a
+word that's become difficult to define, especially since most of its
+usage is in a negative, contradictory or depreciative context.
+
+So I would rather prefer we stay out of subjective interpretations
+first and build from a similar set of rules as for the logo: initial
+intentions, some strict requirements, open tracks, and see what comes
+from this. That is, we build and define the story behind the logo,
+rather than only leave it open to interpretations from here and there.
+
+As an exemple of requirement: do not use or rely on Mandriva colour
+scheme (blue/orange/yellow); or of any other major Linux distribution.
+It does not prevent to use the same colours, but it requires to do so
+in a really distinctive manner/rearrangement.
+
+&gt;<i> Note that the bubble in orange seems more natural, as we expect lighter
+</I>&gt;<i> colors for bubbles.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the letters, perhaps we might color &quot;m&quot;, &quot;g&quot; and &quot;a&quot; of &quot;mageia&quot;, as
+</I>&gt;<i> this is its package suffix.
+</I>
+I'm not sure we should go further than marking more than one letter
+(or even a single one, actually). It makes the full logo confusing. It
+may still be relevant for bubbles/i-dot.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> With the time, I don't know if the color-coding will be enough to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> differentiate official/derivative uses.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that color is not enough to differentiate.
+</I>&gt;<i> We'll discussed that in another thread.
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+&gt;<i> - changed the font : this one is less wide (the &quot;e&quot; is no more rounded)
+</I>
+That was voluntary, because we wanted to use the same font for
+headlines ; in some context, it's easier not to have to change the
+font default properties. Or, it requires to have a precise track of
+what has been altered so it can be reproduced.
+
+&gt;<i> - filled the bubbles
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The new border size of the cauldron with the filling of the bubbles
+</I>&gt;<i> makes the icon heavier, especially the bubbles (I don't imagine tham
+</I>&gt;<i> popping anymore).
+</I>
+The gradient may contribute to the popping/lightness effect, no?
+
+&gt;<i> I think that we need to fill them, or at least put a color in them, but
+</I>&gt;<i> we might not lose the lightness of them (as this represents the boiling
+</I>&gt;<i> of ideas).
+</I>
+On the other hand, filling them makes the whole icon less complex
+(that's especially relevant for small size icons).
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway, we have two interesting refinement directions I guess:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- caroline, with the gradient, filled-in bubbles, and color uses,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- alexn83, with the font change (alexn83, I don't remeber, do you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have the font reference, or is it reworked?) and the match of the i
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> point with the bubbles
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll try to put my remarks in another refinement as a showcase, if I
+</I>&gt;<i> find some time.
+</I>
+Ok.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>Woooo \o/
+
+On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 02:38, Olivier FAURAX &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">olivier at faurax.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 17/01/2011 22:24, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> As an example, look at the difference between the former
+</I>&gt;<i> ubuntu/canonical logos.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ivankristianto.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ubuntu-logo217.gif">http://www.ivankristianto.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ubuntu-logo217.gif</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.webactus.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/687px-Canonical_logo.png">http://www.webactus.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/687px-Canonical_logo.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The whole thing has been redesigned since, and it's worth reading :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/">http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/</A>
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+&gt;<i> For example, they defines colors (orange, grey, white and
+</I>&gt;<i> aubergine/purple), and they use it differently for ubuntu (orange on
+</I>&gt;<i> white, highlight in purple) and canonical (aubergine on grey, highlight
+</I>&gt;<i> in orange).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I definitely need someone who can choose colors like that.
+</I>
+Yep. That's a mix for marcom, artwork and council.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> We already have the official Mageia logo (waiting for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> refinements/discussions yet, another separate mail), designed by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Olivier. We would like, if possible, to have the Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> derivative/community logo based on the official, so there is an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> obvious connection, yet difference between the two.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> An idea to be refined :
+</I>&gt;<i> - color the cauldron body with a color representing the desktop (or
+</I>&gt;<i> purpose) : blue for KDE, red for GNOME, and so on, the border being
+</I>&gt;<i> untouchable black
+</I>
+As for that, I would leave out the colour coding and use
+KDE/GNOME/YOUR-CHERISHED-DE labels instead and separate from the
+Mageia logo (that is, next to it, or below it). More to the point.
+
+&gt;<i> - let the top 3 bubbles color and the &quot;eia&quot; letters color chosen by the
+</I>&gt;<i> group, &quot;mag&quot; being untouchable black
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So the logo will have a untouchable part, and a &quot;use your colors&quot; part.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that every group can choose a set of 3 colors to represent
+</I>&gt;<i> themselves (it's not a flag or something like that).
+</I>
+Let's call this our first design option.
+
+&gt;<i> Something to discuss : would we be open to replace one of the last
+</I>&gt;<i> letter ? For example, the Paris User Group replacing the i of mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> with an effeil tower ? (I would be ok, as it's in the 3 final letters).
+</I>
+Hmmm, not in favour of that at this point.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> So to allow/ease derivative/community uses, we need to setup a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dedicated logo (still with important guidelines/purposes to follow).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There are several use cases that should be facilitated with that:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- derivative/customized distribution release,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- local communities events,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- communities web sites.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that this can be combinated e.g. you need a logo for the KDE liveCD
+</I>&gt;<i> from the Italian group.
+</I>
+Yep.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> In short, that would make:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- official Mageia.Org brand/logo (the one chosen a few days ago) =&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> strict guidelines, for Mageia.Org official releases only (and quotes)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- Mageia community derivated identity (for local
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> communities/projects/initiatives that are tied to Mageia but not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> necessarily officially managed) =&gt; strict guidelines too, but for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> community/derivative uses
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- case by case management for further logos, with required approval
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from the artwork team and validation from council or board.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- exclusive source distribution from Mageia.org website (or dedicated
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia.org artwork website).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What's your take on this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's ok for me.
+</I>&gt;<i> You might also start a list of communities to see if our process can
+</I>&gt;<i> provide a logo for each of them. It would be better to do it for them
+</I>&gt;<i> rather than waiting for them to design their own logo, by the way.
+</I>
+Yes, so we can validate it as well. That's why I would prefer us to:
+ - start small, with the official and the generic solution for
+derivatives; publish those with guidelines and submission/validation
+process;
+ - start pushing specific derivatives for specific use cases:
+ - customized distribution provided/sold by a for-profit company to
+its customers;
+ - local website/initiative;
+ - local event.
+
+&gt;<i> Oh, and finally, I've got it :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5368859836/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5368859836/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> (I did it quickly with random colors, I hope you'll get the idea)
+</I>
+Ok, great. Wooo... all this would be way more easy in a big room with
+a big drawing board, wouldn't it? :-)
+
+Well, further than not being really confident in this option (I'm more
+enclined to have the Mageia official and derivative identity to stay
+as a signature, and have it not spread too much in a lot of directions
+- but that's my take only) I would like too to see if we can have
+other design solutions.
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+<PRE> 19.01.11 12:20, Romain d'Alverny &#1087;&#1080;&#1096;&#1077;&#1090;:
+&gt;<i> 2011/1/19 &#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">alexn83 at yandex.ru</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 19.01.11 4:41, Olivier FAURAX &#1087;&#1080;&#1096;&#1077;&#1090;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 19/01/2011 01:18, &#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Greetings to all!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Some variants of a logo:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/">http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The inscription &quot;Mageia&quot; isn't derivative of any font (these are the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> drawn letters).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do you have the full alphabet drawn like that ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Once again I ask: WHAT FOR?
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, I guess, for titles or Mageia.org specific headlines font?
+</I>Not necessarily, it is possible to pick up a font which is in harmony
+with a text part of a logo (more simple for a tracing).
+Besides, it will help to make a logo more individual and remembered.
+
+In the future it will be possible to make a full font for this purpose
+(at least English letters and figures).
+
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+---
+Alexander Naydenov
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+<PRE>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 13:31, alexn83 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">alexn83 at yandex.ru</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do you have the full alphabet drawn like that ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Once again I ask: WHAT FOR?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, I guess, for titles or Mageia.org specific headlines font?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not necessarily, it is possible to pick up a font which is in harmony with a
+</I>&gt;<i> text part of a logo (more simple for a tracing).
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides, it will help to make a logo more individual and remembered.
+</I>
+Yes, there's nothing against that as well.
+
+&gt;<i> In the future it will be possible to make a full font for this purpose (at
+</I>&gt;<i> least English letters and figures).
+</I>
+Well, that's the point of the question I guess. :-)
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some variants of a logo:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/">http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/</A>
+</I>
+Great exploration, thanks!
+
+Not using border would make the whole logo more simple to catch the
+eye. The first (top left) sample looks good relative to contrast and
+simplicity.
+
+However, the font size may be bigger (the &quot;m&quot; height fitting within
+the cauldron) and the space between the cauldron and the &quot;m&quot; being,
+precisely, the height of the same &quot;m&quot;.
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+--- On Wed, 1/19/11, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> From: Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;Mageia artwork discussion and work list&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 3:34 PM
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 19/01/2011 01:18,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Some variants of a logo:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/">http://ubuntuone.com/p/Yzd/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Great exploration, thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not using border would make the whole logo more simple to
+</I>&gt;<i> catch the
+</I>&gt;<i> eye. The first (top left) sample looks good relative to
+</I>&gt;<i> contrast and
+</I>&gt;<i> simplicity.
+</I>
+And without borders logo is much easier and cheaper to print t-shirts etc. :)
+
+
+tumbeliina
+
+&gt;<i> However, the font size may be bigger (the &quot;m&quot; height
+</I>&gt;<i> fitting within
+</I>&gt;<i> the cauldron) and the space between the cauldron and the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;m&quot; being,
+</I>&gt;<i> precisely, the height of the same &quot;m&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+
+On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:46, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> so, we meet on <A HREF="irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-artwork">irc://irc.freenode.net/#mageia-artwork</A> at 18:00 UTC on Wednesday.
+</I>
+Here are the notes:
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-01-19-18.31.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-01-19-18.31.html</A>
+
+A summary already:
+ * about the logo, Olivier and Alex sent yesterday evening modified
+logos for FOSDEM tshirts printout; finally Damien and I opted for Alex
+black/white and white/black design; thanks to both of you! the work
+goes on about the logo as we discussed in the meeting: try variants
+according to the parameters listed.
+
+ * about the icon set to use to replace soft/ packages, I'll post
+another thread.
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
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+
+so, a reminder: for Mageia alpha 1 to be released, it should be clean
+of MDV legacy stuff, regarding icons and artwork.
+
+So we need to:
+ 1. remove what is obsolete;
+ 2. replace what is not.
+
+Here's a quick guideline to help you share and start the work.
+
+A piece of artwork/media is obsolete when it's not used by the package
+anymore (or by another depending package); so that's a bit hard to
+know, packager help is welcome about that; nonetheless, it's largely
+acceptable to break the UI because of this at this alpha stage.
+
+If it's not obviously obsolete, it should be replaced.
+
+Ah yes, obviously, all media files that are in the todo-cleaning
+sub-repo are expected to be removed or replaced. We just don't know
+what their license is; unless we find it suddenly.
+
+ * if it's a sound, trash it; we'll see later;
+ * if a photograph, trash it;
+ * if a background, replace it with a background of similar resolution
+(TODO, list all needed backgrounds so we build them from a generic
+SVG)
+ * if an icon, replace it (see below);
+ * if a theme decorative thing, notify here and packager and we see
+what can be done (thinking about firsttime for instance, there may be
+others).
+
+Whatever you do, document it, using the CLEANUP_PROGRESS.txt file that
+should be in each module (if it's not there, create it). There, please
+note what:
+ - you removed;
+ - you replaced, and by what (especially if you take an Oxygen icon
+and rename it).
+
+About the icons, use Oxygen icon set:
+ * you can find/download it from
+<A HREF="http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons/">http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons/</A>
+ * it's under CC By SA 3.0 or GNU LGPL (<A HREF="http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=4">http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=4</A> )
+
+To replace an icon:
+ * pick the icon to replace;
+ * find a matching/relevant one from Oxygen icon set, and rename it to
+put it in place of the icon to be replaced;
+ * yes, that means duplication of files, but for the time being, we
+can't afford updating all icons path in packages source code. Making
+this square later, using a theme, will be done at a later time.
+
+Finally, to track progress, you may use this script
+<A HREF="https://github.com/rdalverny/scripts">https://github.com/rdalverny/scripts</A> (updated so it fetches only from
+Mageia svn and downloads only modules that are to be cleaned up
+currently). It uses an anonymous read-only access to the svn. If you
+have a commit access to this repository, you may alter the svn URI
+first. If you don't, you may still work on it and push your changes
+(diff + files) to the packager in charge.
+
+And, really finally now, if you want to help, say here what module you
+take, so we know who does what, and please try to get in touch with
+the packager in charge (look in the svn log to see who is).
+
+Most critical modules to clean are the huge ones:
+ * drakx (Olivier, still ok?)
+ * desktop-common-data
+
+Others are smaller, but important nonetheless.
+
+Thank you for your revision of these guidelines, for pointing out
+something missing and for your help. We've got a few days to do that.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Olivier FAURAX</B>
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+<PRE>Le 20/01/2011 21:38, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Most critical modules to clean are the huge ones:
+</I>&gt;<i> * drakx (Olivier, still ok?)
+</I>
+Done.
+
+The only non-replaced images are the languages where e.g. &quot;English&quot; is
+written in an image. I doubt we can infringe copyright on such work.
+Also, there has been some images in the documentation in drakfont. It's
+diagram used to describe the internals of the program, and I don't know
+exactly what to do with them.
+
+All other stuff has been replaced by oxygen icons or (uglily) redrawn by
+hand.
+
+I won't be able to attend this week meeting....
+
+Have a nice day
+--
+Olivier FAURAX, <A HREF="http://ofaurax.free.fr/">http://ofaurax.free.fr/</A>
+L'erreur est humaine, mais pardonner est hors des capacit&#233;s du syst&#232;me
+d'exploitation.
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+ <I>Tue Jan 25 23:33:36 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 00:06, Olivier FAURAX &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">olivier at faurax.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 20/01/2011 21:38, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Most critical modules to clean are the huge ones:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* drakx (Olivier, still ok?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done. [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All other stuff has been replaced by oxygen icons or (uglily) redrawn by
+</I>&gt;<i> hand.
+</I>
+Excellent. Thanks a lot Olivier!
+
+For everyone, there are still candidates! :-)
+ - desktop-common-data
+ - drak3d
+ - drakfax
+ - drakguard
+ - userdrake2
+ - and a few others, but that would be excellent too!
+
+&gt;<i> I won't be able to attend this week meeting....
+</I>
+Ok.
+
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+same place, same time.
+
+Topics:
+ * progress review on:
+ - logo work, if any
+ - artwork replacement (backgrounds too) for alpha 1
+ * what else?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Anne nicolas</B>
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+<PRE>Le 25 janv. 2011 23:33, &quot;Romain d&amp;apos;Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; a
+&#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 00:06, Olivier FAURAX &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">olivier at faurax.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 20/01/2011 21:38, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Most critical modules to clean are the huge ones:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * drakx (Olivier, still ok?)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Done. [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; All other stuff has been replaced by oxygen icons or (uglily) redrawn by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hand.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Excellent. Thanks a lot Olivier!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For everyone, there are still candidates! :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> - desktop-common-data
+</I>
+I'm on it
+
+&gt;<i> - drak3d
+</I>&gt;<i> - drakfax
+</I>&gt;<i> - drakguard
+</I>&gt;<i> - userdrake2
+</I>&gt;<i> - and a few others, but that would be excellent too!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I won't be able to attend this week meeting....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+
+any update or feedback about the installer/default backgrounds artwork?
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artwork:installer">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artwork:installer</A>
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-artwork] Questions &amp; more....
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 4
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-artwork] brand/logo management, official/derivative
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Caroline Garlatti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-artwork] Luser Presentation! xD
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
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+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 4
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-artwork] (no subject)
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alexn83
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alexn83
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-artwork] Questions &amp; more....
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-artwork] brand/logo management, official/derivative
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-artwork] 2011/week 3 meeting
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-artwork] brand/logo management, official/derivative
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
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+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
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+<I>Romain d'Alverny
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+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
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+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
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+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina pikkarainen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>&#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>&#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074;
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jan 31 18:21:12 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 18:21:17 CET 2011</i>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>January 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jan 5 18:53:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 18:21:12 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 39<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-artwork] (no subject)
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alexn83
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-artwork] Luser Presentation! xD
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-artwork] Questions &amp; more....
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-artwork] Questions &amp; more....
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 4
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 4
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-artwork] Questions &amp; more....
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-artwork] brand/logo management, official/derivative
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Caroline Garlatti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>funcod
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-artwork] 2011/week 3 meeting
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>&#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-artwork] brand/logo management, official/derivative
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>&#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-artwork] brand/logo management, official/derivative
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alexn83
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina pikkarainen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-artwork] 2011/week 3 meeting
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-artwork] 2011/week 4 meeting
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: installer/backgrounds artwork
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jan 31 18:21:12 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 18:21:17 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>January 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jan 5 18:53:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 18:21:12 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 39<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-artwork] (no subject)
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alexn83
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-artwork] 2011/week 3 meeting
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-artwork] 2011/week 3 meeting
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-artwork] 2011/week 4 meeting
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Caroline Garlatti
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>funcod
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>&#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>&#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alexn83
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina pikkarainen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-artwork] brand/logo management, official/derivative
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-artwork] brand/logo management, official/derivative
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-artwork] brand/logo management, official/derivative
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-artwork] Luser Presentation! xD
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 4
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 4
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-artwork] Questions &amp; more....
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-artwork] Questions &amp; more....
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-artwork] Questions &amp; more....
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: installer/backgrounds artwork
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jan 31 18:21:12 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 18:21:17 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>January 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jan 5 18:53:08 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 18:21:12 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 39<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01294249988- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000032.html">[Mageia-artwork] (no subject)
+</A><A NAME="32">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alexn83
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01294260660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000033.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="33">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01294260660-01294573189- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000034.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="34">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000035.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="35">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01294610656- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000036.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="36">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000046.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="46">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Caroline Garlatti
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368-01295307082- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000048.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="48">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368-01295307082-01295396902- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000053.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="53">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368-01295307082-01295396902-01295430550- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000058.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="58">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368-01295342488- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000050.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="50">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>C&#233;line Harrand
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368-01295342488-01295396331- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000052.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="52">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>&#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368-01295342488-01295396331-01295401288- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000055.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="55">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368-01295342488-01295396331-01295401288-01295413497- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000056.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="56">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>&#1040;&#1083;&#1077;&#1082;&#1089;&#1072;&#1085;&#1076;&#1088; &#1053;&#1072;&#1081;&#1076;&#1105;&#1085;&#1086;&#1074;
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368-01295342488-01295396331-01295401288-01295413497-01295428814- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000057.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="57">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368-01295342488-01295396331-01295401288-01295413497-01295428814-01295440316- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000060.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="60">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>alexn83
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368-01295342488-01295396331-01295401288-01295413497-01295428814-01295440316-01295443993- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000061.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="61">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368-01295342488-01295396331-01295444095- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000062.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="62">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295305368-01295342488-01295396331-01295444095-01295454020- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000063.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="63">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tumbeliina pikkarainen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01294260660-01294573189-01294591948-01295306571- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000047.html">[Mageia-artwork] [RFC] Proposed logo guidelines
+</A><A NAME="47">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>funcod
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01294865630- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000037.html">[Mageia-artwork] Luser Presentation! xD
+</A><A NAME="37">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01295106841- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000038.html">[Mageia-artwork] Questions &amp; more....
+</A><A NAME="38">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295106841-01295123193- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000039.html">[Mageia-artwork] Questions &amp; more....
+</A><A NAME="39">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295106841-01295123193-01295267281- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000042.html">[Mageia-artwork] Questions &amp; more....
+</A><A NAME="42">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295190858- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000040.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 4
+</A><A NAME="40">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295190858-01295219337- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000041.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 4
+</A><A NAME="41">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295286643- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000043.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
+</A><A NAME="43">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guala
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295286643-01295295414- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000044.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
+</A><A NAME="44">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01295286643-01295310268- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000049.html">[Mageia-artwork] Mageia-artwork Digest, Vol 3, Issue 5
+</A><A NAME="49">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295299481- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000045.html">[Mageia-artwork] brand/logo management, official/derivative
+</A><A NAME="45">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295299481-01295401139- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000054.html">[Mageia-artwork] brand/logo management, official/derivative
+</A><A NAME="54">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295299481-01295401139-01295431833- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000059.html">[Mageia-artwork] brand/logo management, official/derivative
+</A><A NAME="59">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295343983- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000051.html">[Mageia-artwork] 2011/week 3 meeting
+</A><A NAME="51">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295343983-01295521796- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000064.html">[Mageia-artwork] 2011/week 3 meeting
+</A><A NAME="64">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295555909- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000065.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="65">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295555909-01295910385- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000066.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="66">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier FAURAX
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295555909-01295910385-01295994816- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000067.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="67">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01295555909-01295910385-01295994816-01296029066- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000069.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: icons/artwork replacement, process
+</A><A NAME="69">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295999369- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000068.html">[Mageia-artwork] 2011/week 4 meeting
+</A><A NAME="68">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01296494472- -->
+<LI><A HREF="000070.html">[Mageia-artwork] Task: installer/backgrounds artwork
+</A><A NAME="70">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Mon Jan 31 18:21:12 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jan 31 18:21:17 CET 2011</i>
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