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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-artwork] No meeting this week">bogusman222 at gmail.com
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+ <I>Tue Nov 1 17:50:47 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Will there be one next week?
+If so, you should update the Mageia calendar.
+
+On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hey all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm sorry but I will not be able to hold a meeting this week, because so
+</I>&gt;<i> much work to do. So there will be no meeting this week.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+ <B>Thorsten van Lil</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-artwork] No meeting this week">tvl83 at gmx.de
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+ <I>Wed Nov 2 15:42:46 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Probably there won't be a meeting next week. Until end of November it
+doesn't seems like I won't have much spare time. For the moment I'm only
+at home to sleep. I'm sorry for that but my job has the higher priority :/
+
+Important tasks and questions can be discussed here. I will participate
+on that discussions, as possible.
+
+And I haven't forgot to write a summary of the last meeting. You will
+get it before our next meeting!
+
+Regards,
+Thorsten
+
+Am 01.11.2011 17:50, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+&gt;<i> Will there be one next week?
+</I>&gt;<i> If so, you should update the Mageia calendar.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hey all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm sorry but I will not be able to hold a meeting this week, because so
+</I>&gt;<i> much work to do. So there will be no meeting this week.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+ <I>Wed Nov 2 16:23:20 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi guys,
+
+Marcom has changed our meeting schedule so we're meeting on the week
+between your meetings, so please don't change your meeting week without
+talking to us first!
+
+We'll be hanging out at #mageia-marcom tonight from 19:00 UTC, if any
+artwork folks want to drop by...
+
+Cheers!
+
+&gt;<i> Probably there won't be a meeting next week. Until end of November it
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't seems like I won't have much spare time. For the moment I'm only
+</I>&gt;<i> at home to sleep. I'm sorry for that but my job has the higher priority :/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Important tasks and questions can be discussed here. I will participate
+</I>&gt;<i> on that discussions, as possible.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And I haven't forgot to write a summary of the last meeting. You will
+</I>&gt;<i> get it before our next meeting!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Am 01.11.2011 17:50, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Will there be one next week?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If so, you should update the Mageia calendar.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hey all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm sorry but I will not be able to hold a meeting this week,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> because so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> much work to do. So there will be no meeting this week.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--
+Patricia Fraser
+on the move
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">trish at thefrasers.org</A>
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcom has changed our meeting schedule so we're meeting on the week
+</I>&gt;<i> between your meetings, so please don't change your meeting week without
+</I>&gt;<i> talking to us first!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We'll be hanging out at #mageia-marcom tonight from 19:00 UTC, if any
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork folks want to drop by...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Might just do that.
+
+Thanks
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marcom has changed our meeting schedule so we're meeting on the week
+</I>&gt;<i> between your meetings, so please don't change your meeting week without
+</I>&gt;<i> talking to us first!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+We'll be hanging out at #mageia-marcom tonight from 19:00 UTC, if any
+&gt;<i> artwork folks want to drop by...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Looking at the Mageia calendar I see that Artwork is scheduled for a
+meeting tonight, and that Marcom is scheduled for a meeting next week.
+Am I confused? Are you confused? Is the calendar out of date?
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Probably there won't be a meeting next week. Until end of November it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; doesn't seems like I won't have much spare time. For the moment I'm only
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; at home to sleep. I'm sorry for that but my job has the higher priority
+</I>&gt;<i> :/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Important tasks and questions can be discussed here. I will participate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on that discussions, as possible.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And I haven't forgot to write a summary of the last meeting. You will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; get it before our next meeting!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Am 01.11.2011 17:50, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Will there be one next week?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If so, you should update the Mageia calendar.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hey all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I'm sorry but I will not be able to hold a meeting this week,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; because so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; much work to do. So there will be no meeting this week.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Patricia Fraser
+</I>&gt;<i> on the move
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">trish at thefrasers.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/">http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/</A>
+The yellow (orange?) box is today. Inside today we see which meetings are
+taking place today.
+Underneath today is next week, and inside there we see which meetings are
+next week.
+
+On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> I don't understand calenders so cant really help.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+<PRE>On 2 November 2011 16:44, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> It's really simple.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/">http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> The yellow (orange?) box is today. Inside today we see which meetings are
+</I>&gt;<i> taking place today.
+</I>&gt;<i> Underneath today is next week, and inside there we see which meetings are
+</I>&gt;<i> next week.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't understand calenders so cant really help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+OK, I guess if I should look closer next time.
+
+Thanks
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+
+&gt;<i> On 2 November 2011 16:44, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It's really simple.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/">http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The yellow (orange?) box is today. Inside today we see which meetings are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; taking place today.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Underneath today is next week, and inside there we see which meetings are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; next week.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I don't understand calenders so cant really help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, I guess if I should look closer next time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Always glad to help.
+But what does that mean, there is or isn't a Marcom meeting tonight? I
+might like to lurk it too...
+
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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
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+<PRE>On 2 November 2011 16:52, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 2 November 2011 16:44, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; It's really simple.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/">http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; The yellow (orange?) box is today. Inside today we see which meetings
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; taking place today.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Underneath today is next week, and inside there we see which meetings
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; next week.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I don't understand calenders so cant really help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I guess if I should look closer next time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Always glad to help.
+</I>&gt;<i> But what does that mean, there is or isn't a Marcom meeting tonight? I might
+</I>&gt;<i> like to lurk it too...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thats true, it does say that it is artwork tonight.
+
+Weird.
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<PRE>Tonight is supposed to be Artwork, but Thorsten said that tonight's meeting
+is canceled, and probably not rescheduled for next week.
+But Trish said that tonight there is a marcom meeting.
+Trish also said that if we wanted to reschedule our meetings we should
+consult with marcom, because they had already rescheduled theirs so that
+they are not in the same week that there is an artwork meeting.
+Thus we have conflicting statements.
+To summarize:
+
+ 1. Scheduled artwork meeting this week.
+ 1. canceled
+ 2. Scheduled marcom meeting this week.
+ 3. Marcom scheduled their meetings so as not to be on the same day that
+ there is an artwork meeting.
+
+1 is definitely true, and so is 1.1
+2 and 3 are mutually exclusive. Either one is true, both cannot be.
+And so I ask, which is it?
+
+On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On 2 November 2011 16:52, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 2 November 2011 16:44, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; It's really simple.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/">http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; The yellow (orange?) box is today. Inside today we see which meetings
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; taking place today.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Underneath today is next week, and inside there we see which meetings
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; next week.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I don't understand calenders so cant really help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; OK, I guess if I should look closer next time.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Always glad to help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But what does that mean, there is or isn't a Marcom meeting tonight? I
+</I>&gt;<i> might
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; like to lurk it too...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thats true, it does say that it is artwork tonight.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Weird.
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<PRE>Furthermore, what times are the meetings?
+I recall that artwork meetings are at 17:00 UTC, which is now the same time
+as GMT since DST is over.
+But in the calendar it says 18:00 GMT, which is the same as saying 18:00
+UTC.
+
+Trish said that the marcom meeting is at 19:00 UTC, whis is now the same
+time as GMT since DST is over.
+But in the calendar it says 20:00 GMT, which is the same as saying 20:00
+UTC.
+
+So, which is it?
+
+I am now so confused that I think I may have managed to confuse everybody
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+ <B>Donald Stewart</B>
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+&gt;<i> Furthermore, what times are the meetings?
+</I>&gt;<i> I recall that artwork meetings are at 17:00 UTC, which is now the same time
+</I>&gt;<i> as GMT since DST is over.
+</I>&gt;<i> But in the calendar it says 18:00 GMT, which is the same as saying 18:00
+</I>&gt;<i> UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trish said that the marcom meeting is at 19:00 UTC, whis is now the same
+</I>&gt;<i> time as GMT since DST is over.
+</I>&gt;<i> But in the calendar it says 20:00 GMT, which is the same as saying 20:00
+</I>&gt;<i> UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, which is it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am now so confused that I think I may have managed to confuse everybody
+</I>&gt;<i> else.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+I have no idea either, I suck so much with time zones...........
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+ <B>Patricia Fraser</B>
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+<PRE>Dangitall. Back to the list.
+
+Begin forwarded message:
+
+Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:58:23 +0100
+From: Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt;
+To: Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-artwork] No meeting this week
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Marcom has changed our meeting schedule so we're meeting on the week
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; between your meetings, so please don't change your meeting week
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; without talking to us first!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We'll be hanging out at #mageia-marcom tonight from 19:00 UTC, if any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; artwork folks want to drop by...
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Looking at the Mageia calendar I see that Artwork is scheduled for a
+</I>&gt;<i> meeting tonight, and that Marcom is scheduled for a meeting next week.
+</I>&gt;<i> Am I confused? Are you confused? Is the calendar out of date?
+</I>
+Not confused - I just skipped a step.
+
+We were all going to visit the artwork meeting, but since you're
+not having it, I was going to say to our guys - come over to our own
+space, and any artwork ppl that want to come visit with us, do!
+
+Cheers,
+
+--
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+52.4161N,16.9303E
+Wed Nov 2 18:56:49 CET 2011
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 linuxcounter.net
+andromeda up
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-6.mga
+--
+
+
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+Wed Nov 2 19:01:18 CET 2011
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+Kamil R &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">krytarowski at gmail.com</A>&gt; changed:
+
+ What |Removed |Added
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------
+ CC| |<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">krytarowski at gmail.com</A>
+
+--- Comment #8 from Kamil R &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">krytarowski at gmail.com</A>&gt; 2011-11-04 04:56:23 CET ---
+Should we consider this (artwork wish of one user) as a real thing for
+bugzilla?
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+--- Comment #9 from Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; 2011-11-04 08:09:42 CET ---
+(In reply to comment #8)
+&gt;<i> Should we consider this (artwork wish of one user) as a real thing for
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla?
+</I>
+According to our bug policy:
+&quot;A special case in the Mageia bug tracking process are enhancement requests.
+Valid enhancement requests include requests for additional features in software
+that is written or maintained by Mageia developers&quot;
+
+So yes, it is a real thing for bugzilla, BUT (the following is also what the
+bug policy says and I'm sure you can read &quot;artwork team&quot; where it says
+&quot;maintainer&quot;):
+
+The maintainer is not obliged to accept any enhancement request. These do not
+constitute 'bugs' under the definition above and consequently it is not our
+policy that they will be resolved in all cases. The maintainer may choose
+whether or not to accept the request. If the maintainer chooses to accept the
+request, they should add a comment to this effect, and once the request is
+implemented in a package available through the appropriate repository, they
+should set the bug's status to the RESOLVED FIXED status. If the maintainer
+chooses not to accept the request, they should add a comment explaining their
+decision, and set the bug's status to the RESOLVED WONTFIX status. Either of
+these outcomes constitutes resolution of the issue.
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+--- Comment #10 from Kamil R &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">krytarowski at gmail.com</A>&gt; 2011-11-05 02:42:09 CET ---
+Thank you Marja. From my point of view this animated boosplash requrest for
+Cauldron (!) is odd because:
+- boot procedure and init scripts are crucial, so adding there extra eye candy
+functionality can delay (!) and adding extra functionality what can break is
+irresponsibly
+- Cauldron is mainly for the developers who test new software
+- superfluous and really needless job for our artwork team
+
+But let the artwork team decide
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+Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; changed:
+
+ What |Removed |Added
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------
+ CC| |<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>,
+ | |<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">fundawang at gmail.com</A>,
+ | |<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">mageia at blino.org</A>
+
+--- Comment #11 from Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; 2011-11-05 09:21:03 CET ---
+Not only the bug policy, but also the triage guide contains a paragraph about
+enhancement requests. In the last I read:
+
+&quot;Most of requests will be only solved in cauldron for future Mageia releases
+(like installer related requests), then, you should try to set version to
+cauldron most of times, except bugs requesting, for example, a package
+backport.&quot;
+
+So if the reporter hadn't set version to Cauldron, we probably would have done
+that ;)
+
+About your concern about boot procedure becoming more vulnerable: I'm cc'ing
+some people from the changelog of plymouth. I expect they'll tell us that if
+artwork honours this request, that it'll go into a seperate plymouth theme, so
+that this feature won't be added to the default plymouth theme.
+
+@ blino, boklm, dmorgan, fwang
+Is it correct what I wrote just now?
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+--- Comment #12 from Kamil R &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">krytarowski at gmail.com</A>&gt; 2011-11-05 09:27:03 CET ---
+&quot;delay (!) development*&quot;
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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+<PRE>Hello all
+We are currently migrating to the new wiki, and some questions have come up.
+First of all there is the issue of the artwork guidelines.
+The current guidelines can be found here:
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A>
+How much of that is still relevant? What do we want to change?
+
+Second, who exactly is on the artwork team, and do other people care?
+In the current wiki (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=designers">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=designers</A>), at
+the bottom there is a deprecated list of participants.
+Do we want a new, updated list of artwork team participants on the new
+wiki? If so, who do we put on it? And how much information? Full names? IRC
+nicks? Forum nicks? Just a link to a (perhaps non-existent) wiki page?
+
+It would be best to answer these questions sooner rather than later, since
+the migration phase coming to a close.
+
+Have a good &lt;local time of day&gt;!
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+<PRE>On 8 November 2011 16:41, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello all
+</I>&gt;<i> We are currently migrating to the new wiki, and some questions have come up.
+</I>&gt;<i> First of all there is the issue of the artwork guidelines.
+</I>&gt;<i> The current guidelines can be found here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> How much of that is still relevant? What do we want to change?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Second, who exactly is on the artwork team, and do other people care?
+</I>&gt;<i> In the current wiki (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=designers">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=designers</A>), at
+</I>&gt;<i> the bottom there is a deprecated list of participants.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we want a new, updated list of artwork team participants on the new wiki?
+</I>&gt;<i> If so, who do we put on it? And how much information? Full names? IRC nicks?
+</I>&gt;<i> Forum nicks? Just a link to a (perhaps non-existent) wiki page?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It would be best to answer these questions sooner rather than later, since
+</I>&gt;<i> the migration phase coming to a close.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Have a good &lt;local time of day&gt;!
+</I>&gt;<i> Max
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+That list seems old and somewhat dead.
+
+I would start with the regular people who mail the list and are on
+irc, and send out a mail saying that a new list is being generated and
+to put there names on it.
+Something similar to the packagers list.
+
+As for the guidelines, maybe some of the stuff about the icons isn't
+so needed anymore, but it cant hurt to have it there in case.
+
+Schultz (its 16:46 if you were wondering)
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+ <B>Nicolas Vigier</B>
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+--- Comment #13 from Nicolas Vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; 2011-11-08 18:59:56 CET ---
+(In reply to comment #10)
+&gt;<i> Thank you Marja. From my point of view this animated boosplash requrest for
+</I>&gt;<i> Cauldron (!) is odd because:
+</I>&gt;<i> - boot procedure and init scripts are crucial, so adding there extra eye candy
+</I>&gt;<i> functionality can delay (!) and adding extra functionality what can break is
+</I>&gt;<i> irresponsibly
+</I>
+We already have an animated bootsplash. If done correctly, there is no reason
+that it would break more than what we currently have.
+
+&gt;<i> - Cauldron is mainly for the developers who test new software
+</I>
+It's mainly used to prepare the next version of the distribution.
+
+&gt;<i> - superfluous and really needless job for our artwork team
+</I>
+That's not superfluous. If someone from artwork team wants to try to improve
+the bootsplash theme, I think that would be nice.
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+<PRE>On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On 8 November 2011 16:41, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We are currently migrating to the new wiki, and some questions have come
+</I>&gt;<i> up.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; First of all there is the issue of the artwork guidelines.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The current guidelines can be found here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; How much of that is still relevant? What do we want to change?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Second, who exactly is on the artwork team, and do other people care?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In the current wiki (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=designers">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=designers</A>),
+</I>&gt;<i> at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the bottom there is a deprecated list of participants.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Do we want a new, updated list of artwork team participants on the new
+</I>&gt;<i> wiki?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If so, who do we put on it? And how much information? Full names? IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> nicks?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Forum nicks? Just a link to a (perhaps non-existent) wiki page?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It would be best to answer these questions sooner rather than later,
+</I>&gt;<i> since
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the migration phase coming to a close.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Have a good &lt;local time of day&gt;!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Max
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That list seems old and somewhat dead.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would start with the regular people who mail the list and are on
+</I>&gt;<i> irc, and send out a mail saying that a new list is being generated and
+</I>&gt;<i> to put there names on it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Something similar to the packagers list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That's basically what this is, a shout-out to people to sort of wave an arm
+and show some signs of life, so we know who is participating.
+And how much information do we want there on the wiki? That table in the
+packager's page is very comprehensive, and I can tell you now that it has
+not been migrated to the new wiki.
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As for the guidelines, maybe some of the stuff about the icons isn't
+</I>&gt;<i> so needed anymore, but it cant hurt to have it there in case.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+More thoughts on this?
+I don't think that the stuff about the logo should stay in at all.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Schultz (its 16:46 if you were wondering)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+So that would be: have a good evening!
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+<PRE>On 8 November 2011 17:01, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 8 November 2011 16:41, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hello all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; We are currently migrating to the new wiki, and some questions have come
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; up.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; First of all there is the issue of the artwork guidelines.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; The current guidelines can be found here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; How much of that is still relevant? What do we want to change?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Second, who exactly is on the artwork team, and do other people care?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; In the current wiki (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=designers">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=designers</A>),
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; the bottom there is a deprecated list of participants.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Do we want a new, updated list of artwork team participants on the new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; wiki?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; If so, who do we put on it? And how much information? Full names? IRC
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; nicks?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Forum nicks? Just a link to a (perhaps non-existent) wiki page?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; It would be best to answer these questions sooner rather than later,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; the migration phase coming to a close.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Have a good &lt;local time of day&gt;!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Max
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That list seems old and somewhat dead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would start with the regular people who mail the list and are on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> irc, and send out a mail saying that a new list is being generated and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to put there names on it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Something similar to the packagers list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's basically what this is, a shout-out to people to sort of wave an arm
+</I>&gt;<i> and show some signs of life, so we know who is participating.
+</I>&gt;<i> And how much information do we want there on the wiki? That table in the
+</I>&gt;<i> packager's page is very comprehensive, and I can tell you now that it has
+</I>&gt;<i> not been migrated to the new wiki.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As for the guidelines, maybe some of the stuff about the icons isn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so needed anymore, but it cant hurt to have it there in case.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> More thoughts on this?
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think that the stuff about the logo should stay in at all.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Schultz (its 16:46 if you were wondering)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So that would be: have a good evening!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ok, I thought so.
+
+I'll re read the proposals later and check back, i have class now so
+not quite a good evening yet.
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+
+On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 17:46, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 8 November 2011 16:41, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">bogusman222 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The current guidelines can be found here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How much of that is still relevant? What do we want to change?
+</I>
+Not much. Most of it was written before/for the logo design. However,
+archiving it would be good, at least all the parts related to the logo
+discussion, contest, selection process + maybe the guidelines indeed.
+
+Romain
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+ <B>Thorsten van Lil</B>
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+<PRE>Am Dienstag, den 08.11.2011, 18:41 +0200 schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+&gt;<i> Second, who exactly is on the artwork team, and do other people care?
+</I>&gt;<i> In the current wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=designers">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=designers</A>), at the bottom
+</I>&gt;<i> there is a deprecated list of participants.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we want a new, updated list of artwork team participants on the new
+</I>&gt;<i> wiki? If so, who do we put on it?
+</I>
+The existing list is just for trash. I mailed all on the list i didn't
+know but never get a response.
+The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team members?
+What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
+If it is just like the &quot;Credits&quot; in games/films, than it should be those
+who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,
+because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good ideas or
+their opinions.
+
+Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more fair,
+but that would be round about 20 members.
+
+However, important for visitors of the wiki and artwork interested
+people, is to have a contact. That means, a link to the list, the IRC
+channel, and the representatives.
+
+That brings to my mind. We should vote for a deputy in the next weeks.
+Any volunteers for this job? Max maybe?
+
+Regards,
+Thorsten
+
+
+
+
+
+&gt;<i> Max
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> The existing list is just for trash. I mailed all on the list i didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> know but never get a response.
+</I>&gt;<i> The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team members?
+</I>&gt;<i> What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
+</I>&gt;<i> If it is just like the &quot;Credits&quot; in games/films, than it should be those
+</I>&gt;<i> who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,
+</I>&gt;<i> because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good ideas or
+</I>&gt;<i> their opinions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more fair,
+</I>&gt;<i> but that would be round about 20 members.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, important for visitors of the wiki and artwork interested
+</I>&gt;<i> people, is to have a contact. That means, a link to the list, the IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> channel, and the representatives.
+</I>
+
+There is a list of main things that the artwork team do, backgrounds
+DM's bootsplash etc, with who is working on them, having teams as such
+could be a good way to do this. Or even just one person who can be
+contacted, who can then delegate to others.
+
+See here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=designers">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=designers</A>
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That brings to my mind. We should vote for a deputy in the next weeks.
+</I>&gt;<i> Any volunteers for this job? Max maybe?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I would be loathe to take on any more responsibilities, its not that i
+am uncommited to the team, but my time availabilities do not spread
+out evenly so that doesn't help.
+
+Max seems to be an excellent choice, so he gets my vote.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Max
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
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+<PRE>Am Dienstag, 8. November 2011, 22:21:29 schrieb Donald Stewart:
+&gt;<i> &gt; The existing list is just for trash. I mailed all on the list i didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; know but never get a response.
+</I>I kept those lists in the Archive namespace for i18n and documentation. Even
+if we might never use those lists again...
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+&gt;<i> &gt; That brings to my mind. We should vote for a deputy in the next weeks.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Any volunteers for this job? Max maybe?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Max seems to be an excellent choice, so he gets my vote.
+</I>I have not been working much with artwork and I have no preferences. All of
+you are good people and have been cooperative when asked things.
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+--- Comment #14 from Kamil R &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">krytarowski at gmail.com</A>&gt; 2011-11-09 01:18:27 CET ---
+If this will be in the stable then alright! The author of the request just
+wrote &quot;make the cauldron animated&quot; what may suggest that he would like this
+just for the cauldron not for Mageia in general.
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+--- Comment #15 from Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; 2011-11-09 07:57:43 CET ---
+What about the picture of a cauldron with bubbles above it that appear one by
+one while booting?
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+I can't think of anything else this request can be about than about this
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+Max none &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">mordbe0 at gmail.com</A>&gt; changed:
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+ What |Removed |Added
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+ CC| |<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">mordbe0 at gmail.com</A>
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+--- Comment #16 from Max none &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">mordbe0 at gmail.com</A>&gt; 2011-11-09 08:55:25 CET ---
+A couple of thoughts:
+First of all, &quot;I thought about the logo for Mageia called a cauldron.&quot; probably
+means the cauldron-shaped logo, not Cauldron the version.
+Second, I think it might be prudent to have a look at this thread
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=1069&amp;p=9185">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=1069&amp;p=9185</A> on the forum.
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> However, important for visitors of the wiki and artwork interested
+</I>&gt;<i> people, is to have a contact. That means, a link to the list, the IRC
+</I>&gt;<i> channel, and the representatives.
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+That we already have, and in the new wiki as well.
+What we're missing is the artwork guidelines, and what else from the old
+wiki that needs to be migrated. On that I am not sure. It appears as if the
+old wiki has been used as a sort of notepad to write down half-formed
+thoughts and ideas, as well as a sort of TODO list of projects.
+It is (to my mind) disorderly and pointless. Most people visiting the
+Artwork page on the wiki don't need to see that. There might be room for
+another page where we list current projects, but we would have to keep that
+one updated. And for that to happen I would need to know which of those
+tasks on the current wiki are still relevant, which need to updated and
+which can be assigned to cybernetic oblivion.
+
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+&gt;<i> That brings to my mind. We should vote for a deputy in the next weeks.
+</I>&gt;<i> Any volunteers for this job? Max maybe?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+What would a deputy do? How much time is required?
+(Please do not take that to mean that I have accepted said nomination)
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+Betreff: Missing pages
+Datum: Mittwoch, 9. November 2011, 00:08:57
+Von: Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+An: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">doc-discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>
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+Hi there,
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+I count 36 pages that have yet to be imported and I commented them on
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Wiki_import_list">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Wiki_import_list</A>
+(Look for orange texts).
+Most of them need some kind of decision - either by a special team or by the
+council.
+
+Please DO look at the list and finish the work. If there is no answer, I'll
+roast the responsible team representatives on a huge pile of wood (if ennael
+borrows me the matches).
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+<PRE>Am Mittwoch, 9. November 2011, 09:17:00 schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+&gt;<i> That we already have, and in the new wiki as well.
+</I>&gt;<i> What we're missing is the artwork guidelines, and what else from the old
+</I>&gt;<i> wiki that needs to be migrated. On that I am not sure. It appears as if the
+</I>&gt;<i> old wiki has been used as a sort of notepad to write down half-formed
+</I>&gt;<i> thoughts and ideas, as well as a sort of TODO list of projects.
+</I>&gt;<i> It is (to my mind) disorderly and pointless.
+</I>In parts yes. So you can decide to discard things if you don't need them any
+more. We have done that with quite some stuff.
+
+&gt;<i> Most people visiting the
+</I>&gt;<i> Artwork page on the wiki don't need to see that. There might be room for
+</I>&gt;<i> another page where we list current projects, but we would have to keep that
+</I>&gt;<i> one updated. And for that to happen I would need to know which of those
+</I>&gt;<i> tasks on the current wiki are still relevant, which need to updated and
+</I>&gt;<i> which can be assigned to cybernetic oblivion.
+</I>You can always decide to import things into the Archive namespace so they
+won't get lost.
+Like e.g. <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Initially_registered_i18n_people">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Archive:Initially_registered_i18n_people</A>
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; That brings to my mind. We should vote for a deputy in the next weeks.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Any volunteers for this job? Max maybe?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What would a deputy do? How much time is required?
+</I>&gt;<i> (Please do not take that to mean that I have accepted said nomination)
+</I>Congrats on the job, you weren't fast enough in saying &quot;no&quot; :D
+
+The time required as a deputy depends mostly on the team leader.
+If the team leader doesn't know how to delegate, you won't really need any
+more time then any other team member.
+You might be asked to chair a meeting, to attend a council meeting or things
+like that, when the team leader is unavailable.
+But it might also mean, kind of an equal share of work between the team leader
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+Oliver
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+<PRE>On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team members?
+</I>&gt;<i> What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
+</I>
+Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending. I know it
+may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important to know
+who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as electing
+the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious issues if a
+vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a list of who
+is a peer is important.
+
+It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write
+accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging behind), so
+that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a
+user/group web app in the works), etc.
+
+&gt;<i> If it is just like the &quot;Credits&quot; in games/films, than it should be those
+</I>&gt;<i> who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,
+</I>&gt;<i> because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good ideas or
+</I>&gt;<i> their opinions.
+</I>
+Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax (for the
+original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be in such a
+list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact changelog of it,
+we can as well add H&#233;l&#232;ne, but that was an offline work).
+
+&gt;<i> Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more fair,
+</I>&gt;<i> but that would be round about 20 members.
+</I>
+As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by other
+peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be bootstrapped
+by the leader.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team members?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending. I know it
+</I>&gt;<i> may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important to know
+</I>&gt;<i> who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as electing
+</I>&gt;<i> the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious issues if a
+</I>&gt;<i> vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a list of who
+</I>&gt;<i> is a peer is important.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write
+</I>&gt;<i> accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging behind), so
+</I>&gt;<i> that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a
+</I>&gt;<i> user/group web app in the works), etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If it is just like the &quot;Credits&quot; in games/films, than it should be those
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good ideas or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; their opinions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax (for the
+</I>&gt;<i> original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be in such a
+</I>&gt;<i> list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact changelog of it,
+</I>&gt;<i> we can as well add H&#233;l&#232;ne, but that was an offline work).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more fair,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but that would be round about 20 members.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by other
+</I>&gt;<i> peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be bootstrapped
+</I>&gt;<i> by the leader.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.
+
+
+&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Romain
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team
+</I>&gt;<i> members?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending. I know it
+</I>&gt;<i> may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important to know
+</I>&gt;<i> who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as electing
+</I>&gt;<i> the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious issues if a
+</I>&gt;<i> vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a list of who
+</I>&gt;<i> is a peer is important.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write
+</I>&gt;<i> accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging behind), so
+</I>&gt;<i> that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a
+</I>&gt;<i> user/group web app in the works), etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If it is just like the &quot;Credits&quot; in games/films, than it should
+</I>&gt;<i> be those
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good
+</I>&gt;<i> ideas or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; their opinions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax (for the
+</I>&gt;<i> original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be in such a
+</I>&gt;<i> list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact changelog of it,
+</I>&gt;<i> we can as well add H&#233;l&#232;ne, but that was an offline work).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more
+</I>&gt;<i> fair,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but that would be round about 20 members.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by other
+</I>&gt;<i> peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be bootstrapped
+</I>&gt;<i> by the leader.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.
+</I>
+If you ask me that politely :)
+
+On the quick, some proposals:
+
+tumbeliina
+dimosthenis
+alexn83
+Oliver Faurax
+rda
+ennael
+dmorgen
+trish
+Oliver Burger
+Max
+Donald Steward
+Zlatko
+dtsiamasiotis
+mikala
+dams
+TeaAge
+
+Regards,
+Thorsten
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+<PRE>On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> members?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending. I know it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important to know
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as electing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious issues if a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a list of who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is a peer is important.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging behind), so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> user/group web app in the works), etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; If it is just like the &quot;Credits&quot; in games/films, than it should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be those
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ideas or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; their opinions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax (for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be in such a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact changelog of it,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we can as well add H&#233;l&#232;ne, but that was an offline work).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fair,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; but that would be round about 20 members.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be bootstrapped
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by the leader.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you ask me that politely :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On the quick, some proposals:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tumbeliina
+</I>&gt;<i> dimosthenis
+</I>&gt;<i> alexn83
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver Faurax
+</I>&gt;<i> rda
+</I>&gt;<i> ennael
+</I>&gt;<i> dmorgen
+</I>&gt;<i> trish
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver Burger
+</I>&gt;<i> Max
+</I>&gt;<i> Donald Steward
+</I>&gt;<i> Zlatko
+</I>&gt;<i> dtsiamasiotis
+</I>&gt;<i> mikala
+</I>&gt;<i> dams
+</I>&gt;<i> TeaAge
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thank you :)
+Now, I still think of myself as the new guy, and this might be a good judge
+of who is active and who isn't: names I don't recognize. If I don't
+recognize the name, that means they haven't been active since early June.
+And those are:
+Zlatko
+dtsiamasiotis
+dimosthenis
+
+Next, if I am not mistaken, rda and Oliver Burger are primarily not in the
+artwork team, they just do a little bit of everything :P So, do we put them
+in as well? And what about ennael? She REALLY does everything, but does she
+need to be listed as part of each and every team?
+And what about AlexN83? If I am not mistaken nobody has been able to make
+contact with him since before Mga1...
+
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+<PRE>On 9 November 2011 14:24, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;&lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &gt; The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;members?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &gt; What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending. I know it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important to know
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as electing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious issues if a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a list of who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;is a peer is important.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging behind), so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;user/group web app in the works), etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &gt; If it is just like the &quot;Credits&quot; in games/films, than it should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;be those
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &gt; who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &gt; because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;ideas or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &gt; their opinions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax (for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be in such a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact changelog of it,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;we can as well add H&#233;l&#232;ne, but that was an offline work).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &gt; Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;fair,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &gt; but that would be round about 20 members.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be bootstrapped
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;by the leader.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you ask me that politely &#160;:)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On the quick, some proposals:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tumbeliina
+</I>&gt;<i> dimosthenis
+</I>&gt;<i> alexn83
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver Faurax
+</I>&gt;<i> rda
+</I>&gt;<i> ennael
+</I>&gt;<i> dmorgen
+</I>&gt;<i> trish
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver Burger
+</I>&gt;<i> Max
+</I>&gt;<i> Donald Steward
+</I>&gt;<i> Zlatko
+</I>&gt;<i> dtsiamasiotis
+</I>&gt;<i> mikala
+</I>&gt;<i> dams
+</I>&gt;<i> TeaAge
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-artwork mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">Mageia-artwork at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That list looks good to me, although can I have my T back please?
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+<PRE>Trying to maintain two topics in one thread....
+I copied the old artwork guidelines (this page:
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A>) to an archive in the new
+wiki. So nothing will be irrevocably lost.
+But I still need some definitive answers on which guidelines will go in the
+new wiki.
+Additionally, in the old wiki we have this:
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_visual_identity_guidelines">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mageia_visual_identity_guidelines</A>
+What are we going to do about that? The page looks like a placeholder, no
+point in archiving it.
+All the guidelines and stuff happened before I joined the team, so I really
+don't know how this works.
+Maybe I'll make a section of the new guidelines page for the visual
+identity, maybe I'll create a whole new page for it.
+But the question is, what goes in there?
+And don't forget to add your input on the members list. Mainly: who (to
+add) and how much (information to give).
+
+On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On 9 November 2011 14:24, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; members?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending. I know it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important to know
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as electing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious issues if a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a list of who
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; is a peer is important.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for write
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging behind),
+</I>&gt;<i> so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; user/group web app in the works), etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; If it is just like the &quot;Credits&quot; in games/films, than it should
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; be those
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really fair,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ideas or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; their opinions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax (for the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be in such a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact changelog of
+</I>&gt;<i> it,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; we can as well add H&#233;l&#232;ne, but that was an offline work).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; fair,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; but that would be round about 20 members.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by other
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be
+</I>&gt;<i> bootstrapped
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; by the leader.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If you ask me that politely :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On the quick, some proposals:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tumbeliina
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dimosthenis
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; alexn83
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Oliver Faurax
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rda
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ennael
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dmorgen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; trish
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Oliver Burger
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Max
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Donald Steward
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Zlatko
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dtsiamasiotis
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mikala
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dams
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; TeaAge
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; _______________________________________________
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That list looks good to me, although can I have my T back please?
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+<PRE>I was wondering where Alex got too.
+
+I feel that having the broader team members on the list is a good
+thing, as long as it is made clear that they are not for general
+contact. Cooperation betweens the teams is great, like last Wednesday
+with the Marcom so having good cooperation is a must for me.
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