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+ <B>Max Quarterpleen</B>
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+ <I>Wed Nov 9 16:43:09 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Alright.
+To be honest, I wasn't sure about dtsiamasiotis, the name did sound
+familiar, just not familiar enough.
+So, barring any objections, I will create a page in the new wiki with a
+table, and that whole list of people (except for Dimosthenis).
+The columns will be: IRC nick, forum nick, email, tasks/contributions. For
+anybody whom I don't have any information in any cell I will leave blank,
+and that can be filled in later. The table will be sorted alphabetically by
+IRC nick.
+Aside from that, Thorsten's contact information (his IRC nick) will be
+available directly from the main artwork page.
+For starters, I will only post IRC nicks and the tasks/contributions that I
+know of, and anybody who wants more information about them should let me
+know, either on-list or in a private email.
+
+Now, what about the guidelines?
+
+On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Am 09.11.2011 15:44, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 09.11.2011 14:49, schrieb Max Quarterpleen:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Romain d'Alverny
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 22:57, Thorsten van Lil &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork">tvl83 at gmx.de</A>&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; The question that came in my mind is: Do we need a list of team
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> members?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; What benefit has one of it, if he is listed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Being a team _peer_ member is distinct than just attending.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I know it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> may sound ludicrous or over-theorical, but this is important
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to know
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> who gets a vote and who doesn't, in some situation (such as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> electing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the leader, the deputy leader, and deciding on serious
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> issues if a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> vote is needed). So, in this point of view, yes, having a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> list of who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is a peer is important.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's important too so that it can be written somewhere for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> write
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> accesses in some places (yes, the storage thing is lagging
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> behind), so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that we can roughly know how many people are involved (there's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> user/group web app in the works), etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; If it is just like the &quot;Credits&quot; in games/films, than it should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be those
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; who send artworks/patches to mageia. But this is not really
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fair,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; because so many people spend time in discussing, bringing good
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ideas or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; their opinions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Credits are a distinct thing. For instance, Olivier Faurax
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> original design) and Alexn83 (for reworking it) have to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in such a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> list for the current logo (and if we are for an exact
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> changelog of it,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we can as well add H&#233;l&#232;ne, but that was an offline work).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Naming everyone who is a active member of the list would be more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fair,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; but that would be round about 20 members.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As a reminder, being a peer means having been recognized by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> peers. And as we did for other teams, this list has to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bootstrapped
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by the leader.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hear that Thorsten? Let's see a list of peers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you ask me that politely :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On the quick, some proposals:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tumbeliina
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dimosthenis
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> alexn83
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver Faurax
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rda
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ennael
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dmorgen
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> trish
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver Burger
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Max
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Donald Steward
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Zlatko
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dtsiamasiotis
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mikala
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dams
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> TeaAge
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thank you :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now, I still think of myself as the new guy, and this might be a good
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> judge of who is active and who isn't: names I don't recognize. If I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't recognize the name, that means they haven't been active since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> early June.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And those are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Zlatko
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dtsiamasiotis
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dimosthenis
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Zlatko is a designer who responded on the call for designer on the blog.
+</I>&gt;<i> He told me he is reading the list. However he already did some work for
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia. Have a look at bug #261
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=261&lt;https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=261&lt;https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> dtsiamasiotis has attend to many meating. Also some you were attending too
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/**mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-**">http://meetbot.mageia.org/**mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-**</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html&lt;<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-artwork/2011/mageia-artwork.2011-07-06-17.11.html</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> )**. He also was responsible for new icons for harddrake2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dimosthenis .... I'm not sure, to be honest. I put him to the list, but
+</I>&gt;<i> dtsiamasiotis was meant. So we can discard him I guess.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Next, if I am not mistaken, rda and Oliver Burger are primarily not in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the artwork team, they just do a little bit of everything :P So, do we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> put them in as well? And what about ennael? She REALLY does everything,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but does she need to be listed as part of each and every team?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And what about AlexN83? If I am not mistaken nobody has been able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make contact with him since before Mga1...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, who do want on the list? Everyone who played a part for the artwork
+</I>&gt;<i> team and is on the list. As rda pointed, those have a vote for
+</I>&gt;<i> representatives etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> rda lead all meetings before I did and founded the artwork group. Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> did a lot for the wiki especially in question of design and is actively
+</I>&gt;<i> part of a lot discussions around artwork.
+</I>&gt;<i> AlexN83 could never be contact since mga1, as you said. But as we are
+</I>&gt;<i> still using his work and he is always welcome to came back, I would put him
+</I>&gt;<i> on the list.
+</I>&gt;<i> Ennael ... a round the release of Mga1 she cared a lot of artwork and made
+</I>&gt;<i> sure we had a nice KDE menu icon (that has not come from the artwork team).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thorsten
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ______________________________**_________________
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