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<H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1>
<B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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<I>Wed Jan 12 11:22:10 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:10, Kosmas Chatzimichalis <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">Kosmas at mach7x.com</A>> wrote:
><i> On 12 January 2011 09:36, Romain d'Alverny <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>> wrote:
</I>>><i> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 02:36, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote:
</I>>>><i> Le mardi 11 janvier 2011 à 23:07 +0000, Kosmas Chatzimichalis a écrit :
</I>>>>><i> The initial requirements for installing the maintainers db in the
</I>>>>><i> mageia server are: [...]
</I>>>>><i> 1. RVM (Ruby version manager)
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</I>>>><i> From what I know, that would likely mean compiling our own ruby version
</I>>>><i> on the server, using its own separate set of gems. [...]
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> What's the possible alternative?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> By using RVM, we won't need a chroot environment for gem installation
</I>><i> as installation can be done in a user's account.
</I>><i> Consequent gem installations don't need sudo permission and are
</I>><i> installed on user's account.
</I>
Something tells me that misc won't find this a consolation. :-p
Misc, if in the end, hosting a rails stack does make things less
consistent than with other stacks, we may as well set up a host on a
Gandi server and dedicate it (package management and security
mgmt-wise to the rails stack).
I'm not saying this should be this way but that would be an option to consider.
>>>><i> 2. Rubygems (1.3.7)
</I>>>>><i> 3. Rails (3.0.3)
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> [...] This would mean for the moment rails 2.3.10
</I>>>><i> and ruby-RubyGems 1.3.5.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Kosmas, can you backport your app to these versions?
</I>>><i>
</I>><i> Can definitely try Romain.
</I>
See with packagers first, but thank you to try Kosmas.
><i> Just as a note dreamhost updated all their servers to 3.0.3 and
</I>><i> RubyGems 1.3..6 in a matter of few weeks, and although I don't know if
</I>><i> they had problems, I'm sure that they are security conscious about
</I>><i> their servers as well.
</I>
There's no question about it. But Dreamhost is a business, moreover, a
hosting business so they can dedicate way more people/servers about it
than us, at this time.
>>><i> Moreover, using distribution rpm give everybody the same set of module
</I>>>><i> to work with, if the need to host/develop multiple rails applications
</I>>>><i> arise ( and I think we cannot exclude this possibility ) without having
</I>>>><i> to have 1 set of gems per application. And again, we will not need to
</I>>>><i> handle security ourself ( or at least, no need to do the hard work as
</I>>>><i> this is the goal of the security team ).
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> What about seeing with ruby packagers about this? (Kosmas?)
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I can see about that Romain, but using Rails 3 makes gem installation
</I>><i> and dependency solving much easier.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Any suggestion about who I should be contacting?
</I>
Try contact pterjan (past maintainers, not sure if he's still active)
and/or shikamaru on #mageia-dev. That would really help I guess.
Thanks a lot!
Romain
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