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RVM (Ruby version manager) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> From what I know, that would likely mean compiling our own ruby version +</I>>>><i> on the server, using its own separate set of gems. [...] +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What's the possible alternative? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> By using RVM, we won't need a chroot environment for gem installation +</I>><i> as installation can be done in a user's account. +</I>><i> Consequent gem installations don't need sudo permission and are +</I>><i> installed on user's account. +</I> +Something tells me that misc won't find this a consolation. :-p + +Misc, if in the end, hosting a rails stack does make things less +consistent than with other stacks, we may as well set up a host on a +Gandi server and dedicate it (package management and security +mgmt-wise to the rails stack). + +I'm not saying this should be this way but that would be an option to consider. + +>>>><i> 2. Rubygems (1.3.7) +</I>>>>><i> 3. Rails (3.0.3) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> [...] This would mean for the moment rails 2.3.10 +</I>>>><i> and ruby-RubyGems 1.3.5. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Kosmas, can you backport your app to these versions? +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Can definitely try Romain. +</I> +See with packagers first, but thank you to try Kosmas. + +><i> Just as a note dreamhost updated all their servers to 3.0.3 and +</I>><i> RubyGems 1.3..6 in a matter of few weeks, and although I don't know if +</I>><i> they had problems, I'm sure that they are security conscious about +</I>><i> their servers as well. +</I> +There's no question about it. But Dreamhost is a business, moreover, a +hosting business so they can dedicate way more people/servers about it +than us, at this time. + +>>><i> Moreover, using distribution rpm give everybody the same set of module +</I>>>><i> to work with, if the need to host/develop multiple rails applications +</I>>>><i> arise ( and I think we cannot exclude this possibility ) without having +</I>>>><i> to have 1 set of gems per application. And again, we will not need to +</I>>>><i> handle security ourself ( or at least, no need to do the hard work as +</I>>>><i> this is the goal of the security team ). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What about seeing with ruby packagers about this? (Kosmas?) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can see about that Romain, but using Rails 3 makes gem installation +</I>><i> and dependency solving much easier. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Any suggestion about who I should be contacting? +</I> +Try contact pterjan (past maintainers, not sure if he's still active) +and/or shikamaru on #mageia-dev. That would really help I guess. +Thanks a lot! + + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000135.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000137.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#136">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#136">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#136">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#136">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |