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<H1>[Mageia-sysadm] New Bugzilla maintainer?</H1>
<B>D.Morgan</B>
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<I>Tue Jun 12 15:31:12 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:29 PM, nicolas vigier <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>> wrote:
><i> On Mon, 11 Jun 2012, Marja van Waes wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>>><i> Hi everyone,
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Frédéric Buclin is willing to become our new Bugzilla maintainer :)
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> D. Morgan said he is not against that, and that we could talk about it
</I>>><i> today.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> A bit more about Frédéric (LpSolit) for who doesn't know him:
</I>>><i> He maintains GCC Bugzilla, is part of the upstream Bugzilla team and has
</I>>><i> always been very willing to help us with advice on Bugzilla issues.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Frédéric has explained that his offer is only valid if he can use the
</I>>><i> upstream code from bzr, not the Bugzilla RPM. If that's not possible, then
</I>>><i> he is not interested in maintaining it, because, in his words: "A RPM is
</I>>><i> always behind, has its own hacks, and upstream patches cannot be applied as
</I>>><i> is."
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> I told him I can understand something like our different setup (see the
</I>>><i> .spec of our Bugzilla package) wouldn't make life easier: he'd have to be
</I>>><i> aware when working on the Mageia Bugzilla and forget when working on GCC
</I>>><i> bugzilla or doing things upstream.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> He then added:
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> "Not only that, but every time we update the Bugzilla RPM, customizations
</I>>><i> made to Mageia Bugzilla would be lost, while bzr is able to apply changes
</I>>><i> without altering customizations (unless they heavily conflict, of course)."
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> I asked Nicolas about sysadmin policies that might apply and he answered
</I>>><i> that there isn't a rule for everything, but that things are discussed on
</I>>><i> the ml before being done.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> You are only quoting a small part of what I said. I also said I don't
</I>><i> think we should stop using an RPM package to setup the bugzilla.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I think we should continue using puppet and an RPM package to setup our
</I>><i> bugzilla :
</I>><i>  - Current setup is working fine, and puppet or RPM is not what is
</I>><i>   blocking upgrade I think. What is (or was) blocking upgrade is update
</I>><i>   of our bugzilla templates to bugzilla 4 (already done by dmorgan
</I>><i>   4 months ago), and testing in a VM to test database migration and check
</I>><i>   that everything is still working. We could have done the upgrade 4 months
</I>><i>   ago, but it was decided to wait after Mageia 2 release to avoid adding
</I>><i>   problems just before release.
</I>><i>  - We already have a package for bugzilla in Mageia maintained by Olav,
</I>><i>   and it is not behind, it is the latest stable release.
</I>><i>  - We can apply upstream patches in the package if needed
</I>><i>  - Local customizations are lost when we update the package, but I think
</I>><i>   we don't want local customizations on the server. If we need
</I>><i>   customizations we can add them as a patch to the package. And I think
</I>><i>   it should be possible to maintain that patch using bzr. We can use a
</I>><i>   custom package for our bugzilla if necessary.
</I>><i>  - Using our package helps find problems in the package, which should
</I>><i>   also benefits to other users of the package on Mageia.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But help from Frédéric is welcome to improve Mageia bugzilla, give
</I>><i> advices, patches, plugins, etc ... And should be easier once we have
</I>><i> migrated to version 4.2. Maybe we can setup a VM to help testing of
</I>><i> bugzilla changes before they are applied to the server. Or use vagrant
</I>><i> or other similar tool.
</I>
having this would be the best. I was thinking about a permanent VM
that would allow us to do tests before pushing in production (
something like bugstest.mageia.org )
would allow to test new versions, template changes, ...
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