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Morgan said he is not against that, and that we could talk about it +</I>>><i> today. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> A bit more about Frédéric (LpSolit) for who doesn't know him: +</I>>><i> He maintains GCC Bugzilla, is part of the upstream Bugzilla team and has +</I>>><i> always been very willing to help us with advice on Bugzilla issues. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Frédéric has explained that his offer is only valid if he can use the +</I>>><i> upstream code from bzr, not the Bugzilla RPM. If that's not possible, then +</I>>><i> he is not interested in maintaining it, because, in his words: "A RPM is +</I>>><i> always behind, has its own hacks, and upstream patches cannot be applied as +</I>>><i> is." +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I told him I can understand something like our different setup (see the +</I>>><i> .spec of our Bugzilla package) wouldn't make life easier: he'd have to be +</I>>><i> aware when working on the Mageia Bugzilla and forget when working on GCC +</I>>><i> bugzilla or doing things upstream. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> He then added: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> "Not only that, but every time we update the Bugzilla RPM, customizations +</I>>><i> made to Mageia Bugzilla would be lost, while bzr is able to apply changes +</I>>><i> without altering customizations (unless they heavily conflict, of course)." +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I asked Nicolas about sysadmin policies that might apply and he answered +</I>>><i> that there isn't a rule for everything, but that things are discussed on +</I>>><i> the ml before being done. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You are only quoting a small part of what I said. I also said I don't +</I>><i> think we should stop using an RPM package to setup the bugzilla. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think we should continue using puppet and an RPM package to setup our +</I>><i> bugzilla : +</I>><i>  - Current setup is working fine, and puppet or RPM is not what is +</I>><i>   blocking upgrade I think. What is (or was) blocking upgrade is update +</I>><i>   of our bugzilla templates to bugzilla 4 (already done by dmorgan +</I>><i>   4 months ago), and testing in a VM to test database migration and check +</I>><i>   that everything is still working. We could have done the upgrade 4 months +</I>><i>   ago, but it was decided to wait after Mageia 2 release to avoid adding +</I>><i>   problems just before release. +</I>><i>  - We already have a package for bugzilla in Mageia maintained by Olav, +</I>><i>   and it is not behind, it is the latest stable release. +</I>><i>  - We can apply upstream patches in the package if needed +</I>><i>  - Local customizations are lost when we update the package, but I think +</I>><i>   we don't want local customizations on the server. If we need +</I>><i>   customizations we can add them as a patch to the package. And I think +</I>><i>   it should be possible to maintain that patch using bzr. We can use a +</I>><i>   custom package for our bugzilla if necessary. +</I>><i>  - Using our package helps find problems in the package, which should +</I>><i>   also benefits to other users of the package on Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But help from Frédéric is welcome to improve Mageia bugzilla, give +</I>><i> advices, patches, plugins, etc ... And should be easier once we have +</I>><i> migrated to version 4.2. Maybe we can setup a VM to help testing of +</I>><i> bugzilla changes before they are applied to the server. Or use vagrant +</I>><i> or other similar tool. +</I> +having this would be the best. I was thinking about a permanent VM +that would allow us to do tests before pushing in production ( +something like bugstest.mageia.org ) + +would allow to test new versions, template changes, ... +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004478.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New Bugzilla maintainer? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004485.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New Bugzilla maintainer? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4483">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4483">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4483">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4483">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |