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<H1>[Mageia-sysadm] [RPM] cauldron core/release tagtool-0.12.3-2.mga1</H1>
<B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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<I>Thu Mar 3 11:07:47 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 03:06, Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>> wrote:
><i> Like I said previously, this discussion needs to be moved into the Mageia
</I>><i> dev ML,
</I>
I will open a thread about this in the list - but you could have done too.
There are separate (related) issues in this:
- anonymity/accountability: using real names or not (and this is not
related to privacy - privacy is about keeping facts, actions &
behaviour private - keeping your identity hidden is anonymity)
- identification of contributions: direct contact/id of a given
packager, from references to its contributions in the project (here a
changelog);
- reachability: technical contact within the project (peer review for
instance) and/or from outside of the projects
><i> Apart from that, sure a user might have many wishes, but in a situation
</I>><i> where the user is NOT a paying customer while the packager is a volunteer
</I>><i> it should be the packager who decides how much of his time he contributes
</I>><i> and privacy he is willing to give up, NOT the users every possible
</I>><i> wishes!
</I>
Giving your name is not a loss of privacy. Giving an email address
contact is not a loss of privacy. And both do not encourage users to
spam you, they will more likely end up in a forum or on the general
list first.
><i> And finally if you simply change from the current situation to publishing
</I>><i> the packagers name/surname/email WITHOUT PRIOR CONSENT of the packagers,
</I>><i> Mageia would be in breach of european privacy laws, this has to be
</I>><i> communicated to packagers first so they have a chance to either opt-out
</I>><i> (worst case by stop being a packager if you leave them no other choice) or
</I>><i> change their names to fake names.
</I>
We maybe can't force much, but we can encourage a best practice to be
put into action. Wishing/encouraging that people provide their real
name and a working/actionable public email contact is not in breach of
anything. And of course, such a thing would be notified (although it's
not a brutal change from previous practice, but for people
><i> Also there should be a possiblility for packagers to use a different email
</I>><i> address for the changelog entries, not the same one in the mageia identity
</I>><i> db,
</I>
Sure, but this email would need to be in the identity db nonetheless,
in a separate field. But the use case would need to be more detailed
for that to happen.
><i> I for example use a separate unique email address for every separate
</I>><i> purpose, so I can very easily stop spam by blocking off one specific email
</I>><i> address.
</I>
I guess we all do that. But considering your Mageia contributor email
address to be mostly a source of spam (hence, not reading it) is a
sure recipe for missing important info and contacts from within the
project. There making it harder to work together, within and outside
of the project.
><i>From my point of view, if one doesn't want to provide her real name
</I>and/or a working public email contact, I wonder if she really
understand what the stakes are in contributing and collaborating
within a public open source project that aims to provide a trustable
platform to a significant number of people (and I wouldn't even
consider mentor her).
(no strong feeling, right? :) that's a discussion)
Romain
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