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Giving an email address +contact is not a loss of privacy. And both do not encourage users to +spam you, they will more likely end up in a forum or on the general +list first. + +><i> And finally if you simply change from the current situation to publishing +</I>><i> the packagers name/surname/email WITHOUT PRIOR CONSENT of the packagers, +</I>><i> Mageia would be in breach of european privacy laws, this has to be +</I>><i> communicated to packagers first so they have a chance to either opt-out +</I>><i> (worst case by stop being a packager if you leave them no other choice) or +</I>><i> change their names to fake names. +</I> +We maybe can't force much, but we can encourage a best practice to be +put into action. Wishing/encouraging that people provide their real +name and a working/actionable public email contact is not in breach of +anything. And of course, such a thing would be notified (although it's +not a brutal change from previous practice, but for people + +><i> Also there should be a possiblility for packagers to use a different email +</I>><i> address for the changelog entries, not the same one in the mageia identity +</I>><i> db, +</I> +Sure, but this email would need to be in the identity db nonetheless, +in a separate field. But the use case would need to be more detailed +for that to happen. + +><i> I for example use a separate unique email address for every separate +</I>><i> purpose, so I can very easily stop spam by blocking off one specific email +</I>><i> address. +</I> +I guess we all do that. But considering your Mageia contributor email +address to be mostly a source of spam (hence, not reading it) is a +sure recipe for missing important info and contacts from within the +project. There making it harder to work together, within and outside +of the project. + +><i>From my point of view, if one doesn't want to provide her real name +</I>and/or a working public email contact, I wonder if she really +understand what the stakes are in contributing and collaborating +within a public open source project that aims to provide a trustable +platform to a significant number of people (and I wouldn't even +consider mentor her). + +(no strong feeling, right? :) that's a discussion) + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002967.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RPM] cauldron core/release tagtool-0.12.3-2.mga1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002970.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RPM] cauldron core/release tagtool-0.12.3-2.mga1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2969">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2969">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2969">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2969">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |