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<H1>[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS</H1>
<B>Michael Scherer</B>
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<PRE>Le mercredi 02 mars 2011 à 23:22 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
><i> 2011/3/2 André Salaün <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andresalaun at free.fr</A>>:
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > But using only Linux because it is "common" for
</I>><i> > uninformed people is simplistic ; as we say in French :
</I>><i> > « l'enfer est pavé de bonnes intentions »
</I>><i> > « the road to hell is paved with good intentions »
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Furthermore someone (like me and some others perhaps ) can be
</I>><i> > interesting in « popular education » (éducation populaire) and
</I>><i> > relations between free software, free sciences free...
</I>><i> > Oversimplification of the word is always oversimplifaction of the
</I>><i> > concept. Even if it seems to be easier I see that as a fault.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I have seen the history of GNU and Linux and their "marriage" (because
</I>><i> the GNU people did not have any simple and free kernel for their
</I>><i> software). So, from my point of view there's a good chance that Linux
</I>><i> could have grown to a full operating system even without the GNU
</I>><i> project.
</I>
The gnu project provided lots of software, some quite unavoidable like a
compiler, a standard library, or stuff like screen, gettext and slightly
low level tools ( binutils, coreutils, etc ).
><i> On the other side nobody could tell if the GNU project would
</I>><i> have survived without Linux. Both thoughts are speculations, of
</I>><i> course.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But would a GNU/Linux naming policy not neglect the merits of all the
</I>><i> other projects who actually made the "Gnu/Linux" system a real usable
</I>><i> package? Imagine a distribution only supplying Linux and what remains
</I>><i> from the GNU project (especially Emacs) - would any user actually use
</I>><i> it (except developpers and "tech freaks")?
</I>
I doubt developers would use something without gcc ( granted, there is
pcc or llvm ) and without a libc ( granted again, someone could use a
alternative like dietlibc etc )
><i> I serioously doubt that
</I>><i> this kind of package would never have made it out of the university
</I>><i> and research labs environment, let alone conquer the business world.
</I>
Some people did it : <A HREF="http://www.skarnet.org/poweredby.html">http://www.skarnet.org/poweredby.html</A>
( and some would say that this is almost done for <A HREF="http://openbsd.org/">http://openbsd.org/</A> ,
since the compiler is near 1.0 :
<A HREF="http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20110223045047">http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20110223045047</A> )
--
Michael Scherer
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