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Even if it seems to be easier I see that as a fault. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have seen the history of GNU and Linux and their "marriage" (because +</I>><i> the GNU people did not have any simple and free kernel for their +</I>><i> software). So, from my point of view there's a good chance that Linux +</I>><i> could have grown to a full operating system even without the GNU +</I>><i> project. +</I> +The gnu project provided lots of software, some quite unavoidable like a +compiler, a standard library, or stuff like screen, gettext and slightly +low level tools ( binutils, coreutils, etc ). + +><i> On the other side nobody could tell if the GNU project would +</I>><i> have survived without Linux. Both thoughts are speculations, of +</I>><i> course. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But would a GNU/Linux naming policy not neglect the merits of all the +</I>><i> other projects who actually made the "Gnu/Linux" system a real usable +</I>><i> package? Imagine a distribution only supplying Linux and what remains +</I>><i> from the GNU project (especially Emacs) - would any user actually use +</I>><i> it (except developpers and "tech freaks")? +</I> +I doubt developers would use something without gcc ( granted, there is +pcc or llvm ) and without a libc ( granted again, someone could use a +alternative like dietlibc etc ) + +><i> I serioously doubt that +</I>><i> this kind of package would never have made it out of the university +</I>><i> and research labs environment, let alone conquer the business world. +</I> +Some people did it : <A HREF="http://www.skarnet.org/poweredby.html">http://www.skarnet.org/poweredby.html</A> + +( and some would say that this is almost done for <A HREF="http://openbsd.org/">http://openbsd.org/</A> , +since the compiler is near 1.0 : +<A HREF="http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20110223045047">http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20110223045047</A> ) + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003844.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003854.html">[Mageia-discuss] Linux is a KERNEL not an OS +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3845">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3845">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3845">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3845">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |