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<B>herman</B>
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<I>Sun Sep 19 09:12:37 CEST 2010</I>
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<PRE>Yes, there should only be *one* English forum and the
mageiausers.org/mandrivausers.org forum should probably be it, because
it already exists and is hosted for free by a FOSS supporting
university.
If multiple language fora are required, then they should all clearly
reference each other so that users can click on a flag and jump to the
other forum.
We should avoid having multiple redundant and unknown/confusing fora
like Mandriva currently has.
Cheers,
H.
On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 23:14 -0700, Remco Rijnders wrote:
><i> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:48:02PM -0700, herman wrote:
</I>><i> > The Mandriva distribution has been dying by degrees over the last few
</I>><i> > years. The forum activity drying up is a reflection of the reduction in
</I>><i> > the number of new users.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Agreed and agreed. That's why I'm happy to see this Mageia initiative
</I>><i> being taken; I think most of us on this list hope for this to turn into a
</I>><i> succesful story. Too long have things been lingering as the result of poor
</I>><i> designs and monetary problems.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > The news around the fork is bound to generate a new round of enthusiasm
</I>><i> > and new users should be encouraged.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Agreed. That's why I think it's important that as long as the project
</I>><i> homepage sends new users to this list to discuss, that that is the
</I>><i> appropiate place for 'the official' discussion to take place. The last
</I>><i> thing you want is for there to be confusion on who runs the project and
</I>><i> what it's official home is. Even with the multitude of Mandriva sites it
</I>><i> was through the years not clear which homepage was the right one to use
</I>><i> and which was available for free or which only for club members. Same for
</I>><i> download locations, etc.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > New users of course like web forums, since it doesn't require any setup
</I>><i> > and a user with a problem sorely needs an easy to use web forum.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Perhaps for most new users this holds true. I personally am not a fan of
</I>><i> web fora, but I realise that is just a personal preference. Registering to
</I>><i> post on a forum or sending an email to a mailing list, both which require
</I>><i> you to confirm your email address, seem to be equally complicated
</I>><i> (simple!) to me.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > So, all new users coming here to figure out what the fork noise is all
</I>><i> > about, should be steered to the regular Mandriva downloads and
</I>><i> > mandrivausers.org. They should not be discouraged from using Mandriva.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I'm not saying anyone should be discouraged from anything. Till the time
</I>><i> that Mageira actually releases something, I'm more than fine with people
</I>><i> opting to choose Mandriva.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> With that said though, I don't think we've heard anything on the position
</I>><i> of Mandriva SA in all this yet. Perhaps they might be happy to work
</I>><i> together with Mageia and even rebase their own distribution on it in due
</I>><i> course, but they also might oppose this fork and fight it as much as they
</I>><i> can. I don't know which way things will turn out, but I think we should
</I>><i> not assume that everyone is fine with this, especially given the criticism
</I>><i> given to Mandriva SA and its management. Also, the fact that Mandriva did
</I>><i> not launch a community initiative like this themselves has me somewhat
</I>><i> wary as to their position.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Because of this, *if* we have to point users to a forum, I rather point
</I>><i> them to mageiausers.org than mandrivausers.org. (And thank you Paul for
</I>><i> registering this!). On that board we can then point users to the official
</I>><i> mageia homepage, as well as encourage them to take part in the discussions
</I>><i> on the board.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> But I remain of the opinion that your original call to move all discussion
</I>><i> to the forum is premature at this point and that should such a call be
</I>><i> made, that it should be done by a mageia representative unless we want to
</I>><i> end up with 20 different fora who all want the discussion to take place on
</I>><i> their board.
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</I>><i> Sincerely,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Remco
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