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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100919/001927.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100919/001927.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cc85bb708 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100919/001927.html @@ -0,0 +1,146 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20mandrivausers.org&In-Reply-To=%3C1284880357.18829.63.camel%40athene%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001923.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001928.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org</H1> + <B>herman</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20mandrivausers.org&In-Reply-To=%3C1284880357.18829.63.camel%40athene%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org">herman at aeronetworks.ca + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Sep 19 09:12:37 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001923.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001928.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1927">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1927">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1927">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1927">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Yes, there should only be *one* English forum and the +mageiausers.org/mandrivausers.org forum should probably be it, because +it already exists and is hosted for free by a FOSS supporting +university. + +If multiple language fora are required, then they should all clearly +reference each other so that users can click on a flag and jump to the +other forum. + +We should avoid having multiple redundant and unknown/confusing fora +like Mandriva currently has. + +Cheers, + +H. + +On Sat, 2010-09-18 at 23:14 -0700, Remco Rijnders wrote: +><i> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:48:02PM -0700, herman wrote: +</I>><i> > The Mandriva distribution has been dying by degrees over the last few +</I>><i> > years. The forum activity drying up is a reflection of the reduction in +</I>><i> > the number of new users. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Agreed and agreed. That's why I'm happy to see this Mageia initiative +</I>><i> being taken; I think most of us on this list hope for this to turn into a +</I>><i> succesful story. Too long have things been lingering as the result of poor +</I>><i> designs and monetary problems. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > The news around the fork is bound to generate a new round of enthusiasm +</I>><i> > and new users should be encouraged. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Agreed. That's why I think it's important that as long as the project +</I>><i> homepage sends new users to this list to discuss, that that is the +</I>><i> appropiate place for 'the official' discussion to take place. The last +</I>><i> thing you want is for there to be confusion on who runs the project and +</I>><i> what it's official home is. Even with the multitude of Mandriva sites it +</I>><i> was through the years not clear which homepage was the right one to use +</I>><i> and which was available for free or which only for club members. Same for +</I>><i> download locations, etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > New users of course like web forums, since it doesn't require any setup +</I>><i> > and a user with a problem sorely needs an easy to use web forum. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Perhaps for most new users this holds true. I personally am not a fan of +</I>><i> web fora, but I realise that is just a personal preference. Registering to +</I>><i> post on a forum or sending an email to a mailing list, both which require +</I>><i> you to confirm your email address, seem to be equally complicated +</I>><i> (simple!) to me. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > So, all new users coming here to figure out what the fork noise is all +</I>><i> > about, should be steered to the regular Mandriva downloads and +</I>><i> > mandrivausers.org. They should not be discouraged from using Mandriva. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm not saying anyone should be discouraged from anything. Till the time +</I>><i> that Mageira actually releases something, I'm more than fine with people +</I>><i> opting to choose Mandriva. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> With that said though, I don't think we've heard anything on the position +</I>><i> of Mandriva SA in all this yet. Perhaps they might be happy to work +</I>><i> together with Mageia and even rebase their own distribution on it in due +</I>><i> course, but they also might oppose this fork and fight it as much as they +</I>><i> can. I don't know which way things will turn out, but I think we should +</I>><i> not assume that everyone is fine with this, especially given the criticism +</I>><i> given to Mandriva SA and its management. Also, the fact that Mandriva did +</I>><i> not launch a community initiative like this themselves has me somewhat +</I>><i> wary as to their position. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Because of this, *if* we have to point users to a forum, I rather point +</I>><i> them to mageiausers.org than mandrivausers.org. (And thank you Paul for +</I>><i> registering this!). On that board we can then point users to the official +</I>><i> mageia homepage, as well as encourage them to take part in the discussions +</I>><i> on the board. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But I remain of the opinion that your original call to move all discussion +</I>><i> to the forum is premature at this point and that should such a call be +</I>><i> made, that it should be done by a mageia representative unless we want to +</I>><i> end up with 20 different fora who all want the discussion to take place on +</I>><i> their board. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Sincerely, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Remco +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I> + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001923.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001928.html">[Mageia-discuss] mandrivausers.org +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1927">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1927">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1927">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1927">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |