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<B>Agron Selimaj</B>
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<I>Thu May 31 05:58:13 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>Hi,
I can see two objectives here.
First objective is to have a high installation success rate.
And second objective is to have happy users from both camps; the
GNU-purists-camp and the don't-care-camp.
I think the GNU-purists-camp is a minority here, but I could be wrong, I
never counted them. For them I would make a pure installation DVDs of all
editions, like Desktop, Server, Live, etc. I bet all purists are
expert Linux users and they know enough about their hardware and if there
are GNU drivers for it.
On the other hand, the don't-care-camp needs stuff that works. They don't
care where it comes from, and they never read the messages. They just click
through. For them I would make a mixed DVD with pre-selected components
that have higher success rate. For example, if we know that non-free radeon
drivers install better than the free ones, don't ask the user at all just
go ahead and install the non-free version.
This way, we are making the users choose early way before they start
installing.
I would also call those editions like this:
1g) Mageia 3 Server (G) Installation DVD i686 - Includes GNU drivers
1v) Mageia 3 Server (V) Installation DVD i686 - Includes Vendor drivers
We would also say "If you don't know which to choose, go for Vendor
editions"
I think providing free and non-free installation media will increase
Mageia's quality and reputation. But, everything must be in a single DVD
because there are laptops, servers, and desktops with Broadcom PHY's and
they can't get supplemental DVD's or packages without a working network
card or wifi.
Putting them all together in a single non-free DVD will increase the
installation success rate for sure.
And at last let me introduce my self.
My name is Agron Selimaj. I am an experienced Linux user and programmer. I
have 11 years of Linux experience and I am a Mandriva Powerpack user since
2006 or 2007. I am a professional C++ programmer for Windows, Linux
embedded and Linux Desktops at my day job.
I like the spirit of Mageia creators and I would like to join you. At the
moment, I am an apprentice candidate waiting for a mentor to guide me
through package creation process, bug fixing, etc.
//Agron
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Angelo Naselli <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anaselli at linux.it</A>> wrote:
><i> mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 16:38, Johnny A. Solbu ha scritto:
</I>><i> > On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:20, Angelo Naselli wrote:
</I>><i> > > If you really mean that you should also remove non-free repositories
</I>><i> etc...
</I>><i> > > I don't think being a don Quijote is that good... always imho of
</I>><i> course.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > They do exactly that. They do not have any non-free repo. They have a
</I>><i> policy that do not allow any non-free software (programs, drivers, firmware
</I>><i> etc.) in their distributions, and they don't have any exceptions.
</I>><i> > Some might find this silly and stupid. But they live by the rule that
</I>><i> every software should be Free. If it is not, they will not use it because
</I>><i> they can't do what they want with it.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > My point is just that there really do exist several distributions that
</I>><i> do not allow any non-free software in their repositories. if they don't
</I>><i> have any non-free software there is no point in having an empty non-free
</I>><i> repo. The way Thierry listed the two categories he seemed to suggest that
</I>><i> there where no such distributions.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> That's sounds different of course, i thought you referred to us ;)
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