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For them I would make a pure installation DVDs of all +editions, like Desktop, Server, Live, etc. I bet all purists are +expert Linux users and they know enough about their hardware and if there +are GNU drivers for it. + +On the other hand, the don't-care-camp needs stuff that works. They don't +care where it comes from, and they never read the messages. They just click +through. For them I would make a mixed DVD with pre-selected components +that have higher success rate. For example, if we know that non-free radeon +drivers install better than the free ones, don't ask the user at all just +go ahead and install the non-free version. + +This way, we are making the users choose early way before they start +installing. + +I would also call those editions like this: + + 1g) Mageia 3 Server (G) Installation DVD i686 - Includes GNU drivers + + 1v) Mageia 3 Server (V) Installation DVD i686 - Includes Vendor drivers + +We would also say "If you don't know which to choose, go for Vendor +editions" + +I think providing free and non-free installation media will increase +Mageia's quality and reputation. But, everything must be in a single DVD +because there are laptops, servers, and desktops with Broadcom PHY's and +they can't get supplemental DVD's or packages without a working network +card or wifi. + +Putting them all together in a single non-free DVD will increase the +installation success rate for sure. + +And at last let me introduce my self. +My name is Agron Selimaj. I am an experienced Linux user and programmer. I +have 11 years of Linux experience and I am a Mandriva Powerpack user since +2006 or 2007. I am a professional C++ programmer for Windows, Linux +embedded and Linux Desktops at my day job. +I like the spirit of Mageia creators and I would like to join you. At the +moment, I am an apprentice candidate waiting for a mentor to guide me +through package creation process, bug fixing, etc. + +//Agron + + + +On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Angelo Naselli <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anaselli at linux.it</A>> wrote: + +><i> mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 16:38, Johnny A. Solbu ha scritto: +</I>><i> > On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:20, Angelo Naselli wrote: +</I>><i> > > If you really mean that you should also remove non-free repositories +</I>><i> etc... +</I>><i> > > I don't think being a don Quijote is that good... always imho of +</I>><i> course. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > They do exactly that. They do not have any non-free repo. They have a +</I>><i> policy that do not allow any non-free software (programs, drivers, firmware +</I>><i> etc.) in their distributions, and they don't have any exceptions. +</I>><i> > Some might find this silly and stupid. But they live by the rule that +</I>><i> every software should be Free. If it is not, they will not use it because +</I>><i> they can't do what they want with it. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > My point is just that there really do exist several distributions that +</I>><i> do not allow any non-free software in their repositories. if they don't +</I>><i> have any non-free software there is no point in having an empty non-free +</I>><i> repo. The way Thierry listed the two categories he seemed to suggest that +</I>><i> there where no such distributions. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That's sounds different of course, i thought you referred to us ;) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20120530/1230d6fb/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="015996.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="015991.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] radeon firmware in non-free +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#16007">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#16007">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#16007">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#16007">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |