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<H1>[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal</H1>
<B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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<I>Fri Mar 23 17:00:57 CET 2012</I>
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<PRE>Op vrijdag 23 maart 2012 10:42:40 schreef Thierry Vignaud:
><i> On 23 March 2012 08:32, Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>> wrote:
</I>><i> > Op vrijdag 23 maart 2012 02:08:26 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
</I>><i> >> Op donderdag 22 maart 2012 00:30:53 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
</I>><i> >> [...]
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> in a chroot, i did a test with requiring plymouth or suggesting it (from
</I>><i> >> dracut)
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> the difference is:
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> with plymouth: 301 packages/335MB
</I>><i> >> without plymouth: 294 packages/294MB
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> i'm gonna try a minimal install and see how much this'll differ
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > ok, i was a bit wrong:
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > i have a local dracut version overridden with urpmi-proxy so as not to
</I>><i> > required but suggest plymouth
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > testing with which packages would become requested with rpmsrate...
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > in a chroot, this becomes: 246 packages/299MB
</I>><i> > but, with suggests, this becomes 337 packages/385MB
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > however, in an install i have 371 packages
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > but the / contains 731MB
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > so, where do all these extra packages come from?
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > these are the different packages between installing with suggests, or
</I>><i> > chrooted rpmsrate expansion with suggests...
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > acpi
</I>><i> > acpid
</I>><i> > bc
</I>><i> > coreutils-doc
</I>><i> > cpufreq
</I>><i> > dhcp-client
</I>><i> > dhcp-common
</I>><i> > dmraid
</I>><i> > dmraid-events
</I>><i> > gpg-pubkey
</I>><i> > hdparm
</I>><i> > hexedit
</I>><i> > ipset
</I>><i> > iptables
</I>><i> > kpartx
</I>><i> > lib64dmraid1
</I>><i> > lib64ip4tc0
</I>><i> > lib64ip6tc0
</I>><i> > lib64iptables7
</I>><i> > lib64mnl0
</I>><i> > lib64nfnetlink0
</I>><i> > locales-en
</I>><i> > lsof
</I>><i> > mageia-gfxboot-theme
</I>><i> > mandi
</I>><i> > mandi-ifw
</I>><i> > microcode
</I>><i> > microcode_ctl
</I>><i> > procmail
</I>><i> > shorewall
</I>><i> > strace
</I>><i> > sudo
</I>><i> > tree
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > for one, mageia-gfxboot-theme is here again... it didn't get selected in
</I>><i> > chrooted install from manually checked rpmsrate settings... where does
</I>><i> > this come from?
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > is there a part in the installer that hardcodes certain packages? clearly
</I>><i> > according to the ddebug.log file, this mageia-gfxboot-theme gets selected
</I>><i> > during the choosePackages step and not later on...
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > what am i missing here?
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > does anyone have an idea? i'd like to get to the bottom of this, so a
</I>><i> > pointer in a direction would help me alot...
</I>><i>
</I>><i> acpi* mageia-gfxboot-them are pulled by the installer
</I>><i> mandi* shorewall (& thus iptables*) too.
</I>><i> I've asked previously if we want a firewall installed before summary, anne
</I>><i> & blino said it was OK
</I>><i> microcode* is pulled b/c your CPU supports patching
</I>><i> idem for cpufreq
</I>><i> dhcp was selected b/c there was a network interface configured as DHCP
</I>><i> dmraid (& thus kpartx) was selected b/c you've some fake raid
</I>><i> (...)
</I>><i> you always got gpg-pubkey, those are fake packages containing the keys
</I>><i> used to verify packages
</I>
thanks for the explanations, i really appreciate this, it seems logical,
somehow, except maybe what i'm coming back to:
mageia-gfxboot-theme is pulled by installer? how does that work?
is this really required? or is this something that's somehow done in the
graphic installer?
i mean, i didn't select graphic grub, i chose text-grub specifically. and
somehow during the choosePackages step, the mageia-gfxboot-theme is
automatically selected...
this is the packages that's adding via extra dep and suggests, most of the
stuff...
where can i find the code that is responsible for this, so i can try and fix it?
about firewall, perhaps it's possible to just include iptables, but set policy
on DROP incoming? shorewall seems a bit over the top...
but, if summary isn't completed, you can't boot into it, wrt bootloader? so
firewall seems useless for that...? what is the rationale behind this?
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