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+</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > these are the different packages between installing with suggests, or +</I>><i> > chrooted rpmsrate expansion with suggests... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > acpi +</I>><i> > acpid +</I>><i> > bc +</I>><i> > coreutils-doc +</I>><i> > cpufreq +</I>><i> > dhcp-client +</I>><i> > dhcp-common +</I>><i> > dmraid +</I>><i> > dmraid-events +</I>><i> > gpg-pubkey +</I>><i> > hdparm +</I>><i> > hexedit +</I>><i> > ipset +</I>><i> > iptables +</I>><i> > kpartx +</I>><i> > lib64dmraid1 +</I>><i> > lib64ip4tc0 +</I>><i> > lib64ip6tc0 +</I>><i> > lib64iptables7 +</I>><i> > lib64mnl0 +</I>><i> > lib64nfnetlink0 +</I>><i> > locales-en +</I>><i> > lsof +</I>><i> > mageia-gfxboot-theme +</I>><i> > mandi +</I>><i> > mandi-ifw +</I>><i> > microcode +</I>><i> > microcode_ctl +</I>><i> > procmail +</I>><i> > shorewall +</I>><i> > strace +</I>><i> > sudo +</I>><i> > tree +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > for one, mageia-gfxboot-theme is here again... it didn't get selected in +</I>><i> > chrooted install from manually checked rpmsrate settings... where does +</I>><i> > this come from? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > is there a part in the installer that hardcodes certain packages? clearly +</I>><i> > according to the ddebug.log file, this mageia-gfxboot-theme gets selected +</I>><i> > during the choosePackages step and not later on... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > what am i missing here? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > does anyone have an idea? i'd like to get to the bottom of this, so a +</I>><i> > pointer in a direction would help me alot... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> acpi* mageia-gfxboot-them are pulled by the installer +</I>><i> mandi* shorewall (& thus iptables*) too. +</I>><i> I've asked previously if we want a firewall installed before summary, anne +</I>><i> & blino said it was OK +</I>><i> microcode* is pulled b/c your CPU supports patching +</I>><i> idem for cpufreq +</I>><i> dhcp was selected b/c there was a network interface configured as DHCP +</I>><i> dmraid (& thus kpartx) was selected b/c you've some fake raid +</I>><i> (...) +</I>><i> you always got gpg-pubkey, those are fake packages containing the keys +</I>><i> used to verify packages +</I> + +thanks for the explanations, i really appreciate this, it seems logical, +somehow, except maybe what i'm coming back to: + +mageia-gfxboot-theme is pulled by installer? how does that work? + +is this really required? or is this something that's somehow done in the +graphic installer? + +i mean, i didn't select graphic grub, i chose text-grub specifically. and +somehow during the choosePackages step, the mageia-gfxboot-theme is +automatically selected... + +this is the packages that's adding via extra dep and suggests, most of the +stuff... + +where can i find the code that is responsible for this, so i can try and fix it? + + + +about firewall, perhaps it's possible to just include iptables, but set policy +on DROP incoming? shorewall seems a bit over the top... + +but, if summary isn't completed, you can't boot into it, wrt bootloader? so +firewall seems useless for that...? what is the rationale behind this? +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="013440.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="013444.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#13442">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#13442">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#13442">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#13442">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |