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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal</H1>
    <B>Christian Lohmaier</B> 
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<PRE>On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Thierry Vignaud
&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
&gt;<i> On 22 March 2012 09:31, You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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</I>&gt;<i> It's easy to add a suggest (&quot;hey it'll just make the user experience better&quot;),
</I>&gt;<i> but eventually the suggested package can start a cycles that will pull
</I>&gt;<i> quite a lot more packages.
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This is a lame excuse, really.
What you are actually saying is that rpmdrake sucks because it doesn't
distinguish between required and suggested packages and doesn't let
the user choose.

The topic started off with a user using minimal installation without
suggested packages - just to remind you of that.

&gt;<i> [...]
</I>&gt;<i> And none of it (but python) has actually to do with systemd.
</I>&gt;<i> It was just that required library actually suggest or requires another one
</I>&gt;<i> which also suggested or required ...
</I>
Don't mix up suggests with requires in this matter please.

&gt;<i> Everyone should be concerned about that.
</I>
Yes, but don't force crippling of package's interdependencies/suggests
because one part of the tooling ignores the difference between
requires and suggests.

&gt;<i> I think that some of those &quot;comfort&quot; suggests should be moved
</I>&gt;<i> from some low level library or tool package to task-&lt;desktop&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> packages.
</I>
I completely disagree.

Give the user control of the suggested packages, highlight stuff that
is suggested and what is required.

ciao
Christian
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