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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal</H1>
+ <B>Christian Lohmaier</B>
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+ <I>Thu Mar 22 12:49:22 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Thierry Vignaud
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 22 March 2012 09:31, You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's easy to add a suggest (&quot;hey it'll just make the user experience better&quot;),
+</I>&gt;<i> but eventually the suggested package can start a cycles that will pull
+</I>&gt;<i> quite a lot more packages.
+</I>
+This is a lame excuse, really.
+What you are actually saying is that rpmdrake sucks because it doesn't
+distinguish between required and suggested packages and doesn't let
+the user choose.
+
+The topic started off with a user using minimal installation without
+suggested packages - just to remind you of that.
+
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> And none of it (but python) has actually to do with systemd.
+</I>&gt;<i> It was just that required library actually suggest or requires another one
+</I>&gt;<i> which also suggested or required ...
+</I>
+Don't mix up suggests with requires in this matter please.
+
+&gt;<i> Everyone should be concerned about that.
+</I>
+Yes, but don't force crippling of package's interdependencies/suggests
+because one part of the tooling ignores the difference between
+requires and suggests.
+
+&gt;<i> I think that some of those &quot;comfort&quot; suggests should be moved
+</I>&gt;<i> from some low level library or tool package to task-&lt;desktop&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> packages.
+</I>
+I completely disagree.
+
+Give the user control of the suggested packages, highlight stuff that
+is suggested and what is required.
+
+ciao
+Christian
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