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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] executable libraries</H1>
    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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<PRE>Le 02/03/2012 22:01, Per &#216;yvind Karlsen a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> Den 21:51 2. mars 2012 skrev Maarten Vanraes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;  f&#248;lgende:
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 21:29:05 schreef Anssi Hannula:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 21:57, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 15:22:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does this mean debug info fails for these?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stuff works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and thus -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> non-executable shared libs.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> don't fail some libraries debug and strip
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Possibly.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libs:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-">http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-</A>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ru ntime
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> usually results in a core dump.&quot;
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> which is sort of strange, since libc is actually executable by design.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i see where they are coming from
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but i guess the first part of this is, why is there a find with
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> executable restrictions for the code relating to stripped binaries and
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> debug?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is it because it's also used for real executables?
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I guess it is there just to speed up the process, otherwise it would
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have to run 'file' for every file in the package (and many packages have
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lots of files).
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> still, it seems kind of weird, there are rpmlint checks for unstripped
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libraries, but i do have 34 libraries not marked as executable, while the
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stripping+ debug seems to target only executables?
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i wonder if we should make another check library unset as executable or even
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> check what happened with these libraries not marked as executable?
</I>&gt;<i> I posted a link to a rpmlint patch implementing such a check to this thread two
</I>&gt;<i> hours ago.. :p
</I>I don't much point to a check, when a rpm-helper scriptlet would be able 
to automatically enforce any given permission set.

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