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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Remove upgrade functionnality in installer</H1>
<B>Anne nicolas</B>
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<I>Mon Jun 25 09:24:30 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>><i> But using a DVD to upgrade an already installed system is a good way to get
</I>><i> around the fact that many packages, including nonfree firmware, are missing
</I>><i> from the DVD.
</I>><i> If one does a clean install, one has to try to find a lot of missing
</I>><i> packages, because they are no longer installed.  This impacts considerably
</I>><i> the usability of the system.  (Considering what the user had installed.)
</I>><i> All one has to do after the upgrade install, is reboot and do a normal
</I>><i> upgrade with rpmdrake (selecting "all updates" and "all packages"), and
</I>><i> almost everything works well.
</I>><i> (For me upgrade to mga1 worked perfectly.  The last 2 upgrades with mdv had
</I>><i> some problems, due to other factors.  A clean install has always caused me a
</I>><i> lot of problems.)
</I>><i> With a clean install, it can be problematic to find all the missing
</I>><i> packages, as well as missing firmware.
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I'm not saying we remove all upgrade ways as we still have mgaapplet.
We experienced *a lot* of problem during QA tests using DVD to
upgrade. Really I don'"t understand your point...
><i>
</I>><i> Note that I don't use mgaapplet after an upgrade install, since it doesn't
</I>><i> give me all the information I want, to help me decide if I should drop some
</I>><i> packages that were installed.
</I>
This is not the role of this tool.
><i> It may be that using mgaapplet after an upgrade install is the weak link in
</I>><i> the chain.
</I>><i> And certainly urpmi is not a convenient tool at this point.  (Although I use
</I>><i> it a lot at other times.)
</I>
So because mgaapplet is buggy for upgrades, we should just let it down
and use DVD ?
><i>
</I>><i> Note also that with upgrade install, even firmware that is missing from the
</I>><i> release (and not only the DVD) remains installed.  So there are cases where
</I>><i> an upgrade install necessarily produces a better functioning system.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> So in sum, in my view, removing upgrade install for DVDs would be an
</I>><i> important regression.
</I>><i> But maybe we should suggest rebooting and using rpmdrake after such an
</I>><i> install.
</I>
This is non sense... Either the upgrade tool does its job properly or
not... How can we say Mageia is easy when you propose such process?
><i>
</I>><i> Regards :)
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</I>><i> --
</I>><i> André
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Anne
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