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<PRE>><i> 2012/1/6 Robert Fox <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>>:
</I>>><i> After latest Cauldron updates, I got a real long list of suggested
</I>>><i> "orphans" - but I believe some of these packages are needed (like hal or
</I>>><i> basesystem-minimal) -
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> How do I clear out the orphans - like reset the logic behind it so the
</I>>><i> correct packages will be orphaned?  Or is a fresh install in order??
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</I>>><i> The following packages:
</I>>><i>  aisleriot-3.3.1-1.mga2.x86_64
</I>>><i>  alacarte-0.13.2-3.mga1.noarch
</I>>><i>  alsa-plugins-doc-1.0.24-5.mga2.noarch
</I>>><i> ....
</I>><i>
</I>><i> This is a well known issue.
</I>><i> To clear out the list you need a deep knowledge of the system to
</I>><i> determine which packages are really not needed anymore.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Lately this --auto-orphans line shreddered my whole system on a fresh
</I>><i> install after the first update, several system services could not
</I>><i> start at next reboot, applications did not run, etc. One of the very
</I>><i> few times I had to re-install because of a bug. Call me newbie or
</I>><i> pussy but until this is not a secure function I will never touch it
</I>><i> again.
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Btw, this problem is not unique to Mageia. After I hosed a Debian
installation by running apt with auto-orphans, I vowed never to mess with
orphans again.
The system has to be intelligent enough to know what is or is not an orphan.
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Finid.
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