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+<PRE>&gt;<i> 2012/1/6 Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> After latest Cauldron updates, I got a real long list of suggested
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;orphans&quot; - but I believe some of these packages are needed (like hal or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> basesystem-minimal) -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How do I clear out the orphans - like reset the logic behind it so the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> correct packages will be orphaned? &#194;&#160;Or is a fresh install in order??
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The following packages:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#194;&#160;aisleriot-3.3.1-1.mga2.x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#194;&#160;alacarte-0.13.2-3.mga1.noarch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#194;&#160;alsa-plugins-doc-1.0.24-5.mga2.noarch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a well known issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> To clear out the list you need a deep knowledge of the system to
+</I>&gt;<i> determine which packages are really not needed anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Lately this --auto-orphans line shreddered my whole system on a fresh
+</I>&gt;<i> install after the first update, several system services could not
+</I>&gt;<i> start at next reboot, applications did not run, etc. One of the very
+</I>&gt;<i> few times I had to re-install because of a bug. Call me newbie or
+</I>&gt;<i> pussy but until this is not a secure function I will never touch it
+</I>&gt;<i> again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Btw, this problem is not unique to Mageia. After I hosed a Debian
+installation by running apt with auto-orphans, I vowed never to mess with
+orphans again.
+
+The system has to be intelligent enough to know what is or is not an orphan.
+
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