blob: 9609daaee042e7d14391ce4b74c01b728fc26140 (
plain)
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
|
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE> [Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown
</TITLE>
<LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
<LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20latest%20kernels%20not%20powering%20off%20machines%20on%0A%09shutdown&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEta%2BFv%2BCxpFQC88TXAdK-VMQk8TdPsVtV1R369ofy6J3Cg%40mail.gmail.com%3E">
<META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
<META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<LINK REL="Previous" HREF="018027.html">
<LINK REL="Next" HREF="018032.html">
</HEAD>
<BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
<H1>[Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown</H1>
<B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
<A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20latest%20kernels%20not%20powering%20off%20machines%20on%0A%09shutdown&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEta%2BFv%2BCxpFQC88TXAdK-VMQk8TdPsVtV1R369ofy6J3Cg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
TITLE="[Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com
</A><BR>
<I>Thu Aug 9 21:55:20 CEST 2012</I>
<P><UL>
<LI>Previous message: <A HREF="018027.html">[Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown
</A></li>
<LI>Next message: <A HREF="018032.html">[Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown
</A></li>
<LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
<a href="date.html#18030">[ date ]</a>
<a href="thread.html#18030">[ thread ]</a>
<a href="subject.html#18030">[ subject ]</a>
<a href="author.html#18030">[ author ]</a>
</LI>
</UL>
<HR>
<!--beginarticle-->
<PRE>On 9 August 2012 21:51, Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>> wrote:
>>>><i> But even since I know it has changed, 10 years habits had me typing
</I>>>>><i> halt and then saying some bad words as it meant I would not be able to
</I>>>>><i> power it on again for a few days.
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> OK, how about a compromise, "urpmi restore-broken-halt-command" which
</I>>>><i> just contains a single file /etc/profile.d/99broken-halt-command.sh
</I>>>><i> which contains:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> alias halt=poweroff
</I>>>><i>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Well my own machine already has halt='halt -p' since the day I lost it
</I>>><i> like that :)
</I>>><i> What annoys me is that I don't see the point of changing the default
</I>>><i> behavior of a (quite important) command while the new default is
</I>>><i> something people would only want to use in very rare cases and will
</I>>><i> cause problems to most of them.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Well, for me personally, I always prefer to fix things that are broken
</I>><i> and not use history as an excuse for keeping broken behaviour.
</I>
I could counter argue that's a lame excuse for breaking existing documented
behavior. Scores of people rely on that behavior.
What's more it's an established behavior in some communauties (eg: the kernel
one) to not break usage for the purpose to fix things if it breaks
existing apps or
usage.
><i> It
</I>><i> doesn't take long to adapt to new commands and the people of the future
</I>><i> will never need to learn the history behind why such a quirk exists.
</I>
And what about DMs that call "halt" ?
><i> Anyway, I very much do not want to patch systemd to change upstream
</I>><i> behaviour here. If we have to work around it then someone who cares
</I>><i> enough can create the package as I suggested above, or take the cause to
</I>><i> upstream systemd and get them to change the behaviour.
</I></PRE>
<!--endarticle-->
<HR>
<P><UL>
<!--threads-->
<LI>Previous message: <A HREF="018027.html">[Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown
</A></li>
<LI>Next message: <A HREF="018032.html">[Mageia-dev] latest kernels not powering off machines on shutdown
</A></li>
<LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
<a href="date.html#18030">[ date ]</a>
<a href="thread.html#18030">[ thread ]</a>
<a href="subject.html#18030">[ subject ]</a>
<a href="author.html#18030">[ author ]</a>
</LI>
</UL>
<hr>
<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
mailing list</a><br>
</body></html>
|
