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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] RFC: Add versioned require in rpm on rpm-helper</H1>
    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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    <I>Mon Apr 16 14:50:46 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>On 16 April 2012 14:33, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; en eus skrivet:
&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So just to make sure I'm following this right:
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;1. Versioned require will fix urpmi-based upgrades.
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;2. Installer (fresh-install) will be fine because basesystem-minimal
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will pull in rpm which will pull in rpm-helper. &#160;WE can be confident
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this will happen early.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No you cannot on upgrade.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Package ordering will depends on versioned requires.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;3. Installer (upgrade) will still be broken as it does not treat the
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm package inside the chroot as any kind of priority update that is
</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed early in the upgrade process.
</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installer upgrade will be OK if systemd unit packages require a recent
</I>&gt;&gt;<i> enough rpm-helper
</I>&gt;<i>
</I>&gt;<i> So, if I read this right, if we set versioned Requires(pre) rpm-helper on
</I>&gt;<i> systemd (or systemd-units) we will fix 2 and 3 too as anything systemd
</I>&gt;<i> related depends on theese packages ?
</I>
Again this won't work.
eg: nginx provides a systemd unit but doesn't require systemd.
So you cannot guaranty that systemd (&amp; thus rpm-helper) will got
installed prior those packages

It's the all the packages that provides systemd units that should
requires a recent enough rpm-helper.
Not just systemd.

&gt;<i> But what will happend to initscript/sysvinit installs ?
</I>
Those will upgrade to systemd due to automatic
choice between systemd &amp; sysvinit-legacy.
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