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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] RFC: Add versioned require in rpm on rpm-helper</H1>
+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+<PRE>On 16 April 2012 14:33, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; en eus skrivet:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So just to make sure I'm following this right:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;1. Versioned require will fix urpmi-based upgrades.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;2. Installer (fresh-install) will be fine because basesystem-minimal
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will pull in rpm which will pull in rpm-helper. &#160;WE can be confident
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this will happen early.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No you cannot on upgrade.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Package ordering will depends on versioned requires.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;3. Installer (upgrade) will still be broken as it does not treat the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm package inside the chroot as any kind of priority update that is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed early in the upgrade process.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installer upgrade will be OK if systemd unit packages require a recent
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> enough rpm-helper
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, if I read this right, if we set versioned Requires(pre) rpm-helper on
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd (or systemd-units) we will fix 2 and 3 too as anything systemd
+</I>&gt;<i> related depends on theese packages ?
+</I>
+Again this won't work.
+eg: nginx provides a systemd unit but doesn't require systemd.
+So you cannot guaranty that systemd (&amp; thus rpm-helper) will got
+installed prior those packages
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+It's the all the packages that provides systemd units that should
+requires a recent enough rpm-helper.
+Not just systemd.
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+&gt;<i> But what will happend to initscript/sysvinit installs ?
+</I>
+Those will upgrade to systemd due to automatic
+choice between systemd &amp; sysvinit-legacy.
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