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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer</H1>
<B>Michael Scherer</B>
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<PRE>Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 14:24 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
><i> On 24.03.2011 12:53, Michael Scherer wrote:
</I>><i> > Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
</I>><i> >> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
</I>><i> >>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>><i> >>>> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>> wrote:
</I>><i> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>> wrote:
</I>><i> >>>>>>
</I>><i> >>>>>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
</I>><i> >>>>>
</I>><i> >>>>> No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso,
</I>><i> >>>>> and this question is i think interesting.
</I>><i> >>>>>
</I>><i> >>> A possible solution for people with such a setup could be a non-free
</I>><i> >>> "driver cd ISO" which they could include in the installation process.
</I>><i> >>>
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> What about a DVD including non-free packages but has the option to not
</I>><i> >> install them?
</I>><i> >> I think the majority of the users don't care that much about proprietary
</I>><i> >> issues, they just need them for using there wireless card or graphic
</I>><i> >> card. Those how do care can just uncheck the non-free part of the DVD. :)
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Well, personally, then I would just continue to use Fedora or others
</I>><i> > distribution on my computers, and keep Mageia just for the servers of
</I>><i> > the project.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Fedora includes non-free firmware both in repo and medias, so why prefer
</I>><i> that?
</I>
I know, I likely use them for my wifi card (Atheros AR5008) and also use
external ones for my dvb card ( aver-tv red hd+ ), and my webcam
( iSight ).
But my issue is not about non-free firmwares and those who use them or
not, but about the gradual move to non-free packages on the free dvd iso
( <A HREF="http://netsplit.com/2006/11/27/slippery-slopes/">http://netsplit.com/2006/11/27/slippery-slopes/</A> ).
When I started at Mandrake Linux, there was no non-free repository. Then
one day, non-free was created, and then soon, it was activated by
default for the free version. Then I opened this bug,
<A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=40033">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=40033</A> , who took 2 years to be
fixed. And what I just see is yet another push to bury a little bit more
values I care.
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Michael Scherer
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